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In this episode Tron and Randy are joined by the LPGA's Megan Khang. Megan discusses her and her family's remarkable, and unlikely, path into the game of golf. She talks about her beginnings as a small child with her father, a stellar amateur career, the decision about whether to attend college or turn professional, and much more. At just 22 years of age, it's easy to forget how young she still is, as she's been a mainstay on LPGA leaderboards for several years now, including competing on the 2019 Solheim Cup team. Enjoy!

(Note: This interview was recorded in November 2019 at the LPGA Tour Championship)

The No Laying Up collective chops it up with a wide variety of guests from all corners of the golf world, and more importantly, guests from the golf-adjacent world. 



60: Megan Khang

March Madness is here! To celebrate the best time of the college basketball calendar Randy talks with writer Matthew Goodman about The City College of New York basketball team, the only squad to ever win both the NCAA and NIT postseason tournaments in the same season. Goodman's book, "The City Game: Triumph, Scandal, and a Legendary Basketball Team," does an incredible job of bringing that historic team to life once again, as well as exploring the burgeoning college basketball industry. As the title suggests, CCNY would find scandal and shame along with their titles, with the seedy underbelly of college athletics, New York City bookmaking, and local politics all being exposed. It's a wonderful read for any basketball fan as we get ready to crown a new champion. Enjoy!

59: Matthew Goodman & "The City Game"

It's a Reading Room episode of the TrapDraw as Randy is joined by author Stephen Proctor to discuss his book, "Monarch of the Green: Young Tom Morris, Pioneer of Modern Golf." No doubt the name Young Tom Morris is familiar to you, but how much do you know about his life? Do you know why he's such an important figure in the game of golf? How he has influenced the modern game? How about the massive tragedy surrounding him? Stephen Proctor is a golf historian and spent several years researching and writing about Young Tom. He's a great storyteller and shares what he knows about one of the games foremost figures. Enjoy!

58: Stephen Proctor on Young Tom Morris

GolfWeek's Beth Ann Nichols joins Randy to catch up on the first quarter of the 2020 LPGA season. They discuss how the coronavirus has impacted the schedule, on-course results like Madelene Sagstrom's breakthrough win in Boca and Inbee Park ending her near two-year drought, the passing of LPGA great, and American golf icon, Mickey Wright, and several other topics and people of note. Note to listeners--the LPGA returns to action March 19-22 in Phoenix, so hopefully this helps tide you over until the action resumes. Enjoy!

57: Beth Ann Nichols

It's the Perfect Club! Today's episode features Neil Schuster, DJ Piehowski and Jerry Bell (Garth connoisseur and Neil's roommate) discussing Garth Brooks through the lens of the 2019 documentary, 'The Road I'm On.' The guys offer their spirited insights and opinions on the piece, as well as diving deeper into the man, and phenomenon, that is Garth Brooks. Enjoy!

56: Garth Brooks and 'The Road I'm On'

Randy sits down with the winner of the 2019 US Senior Amateur, Bob Royak. The two discuss Bob's history in the game of golf, the razor-thin line between a potential career in pro golf or not, and the book that changed Bob's life, which he credits for helping him win the amateur last year. It's always a pleasure to speak with elite amateurs and Bob's resume stacks right up there with the best in the game right now. Enjoy!

55: Bob Royak (2019 US Sr. Amateur Champion)

It's Oscars season! Randy and DJ watched all nine of the best picture nominees this year and share thoughts on each movie, plus give out some of their own awards. The two are joined by Neil Schuster, the March Czar, who saw several of the nominees and joins in where applicable. This is a long pod, but instead of splitting it in two we'll let you be your own boss and break it up as you see fit. The first hour is awards, while the second hour is discussion on each nominee: Ford vs Ferrari (1:00:12), The Irishman (1:04:16), Jojo Rabbit (1:14:49), Joker (1:25:57), Little Women (1:31:56), Marriage Story (1:35:54), 1917 (1:45:55), Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (1:50:26), and Parasite (1:55:25). We should warn you there are light spoilers but we try our best to avoid anything that would detract from your enjoyment of the movie. Be warned though.

54: Oscars SZN!

Randy is joined by Gary Nicol and Karl Morris, authors of the book "The Lost Art of Playing Golf." Gary is a golf professional and coach who has worked with golfers of all stripes and abilities, from weekend hacks to some of the best pros in the world. Karl has been a performance coach for over a quarter-century and counts among his clients golf professionals, cricketers, and international soccer players. This is the second book for the duo after their first release, "The Lost Art of Putting." The trio touch on a number of ideas and concepts, none of them technical, which are both at the heart of the game and integral to playing better golf. Hope you enjoy!

53: Gary Nicol & Karl Morris on The Lost Art of Playing Golf

Today's guest is Hall of Fame pitcher, MLB and Fox broadcast analyst, and golfer John Smoltz. Randy explores John's baseball career before turning the conversation towards golf, discussing both John's accomplishments to date, as well as what he hopes to do over the next several years. Along the way are numerous anecdotes around baseball and golf, including how Michael Jordan gets himself ready to hit a big putt, and what it's like to pitch to Tiger Woods. Smoltz just wrapped up his second consecutive win in the Celebrity Division of the LPGA's Tournament of Champions last weekend and is hoping to get more starts on the Champions Tour this summer. This was a treat to talk to John and hope you enjoy!

52: John Smoltz

The 2020 LPGA season is underway and Randy sits down at the season-opening Tournament of Champions with Annie Park to discuss her golf journey. Annie got her start in the game by going along with her mother to the golf course. She enjoyed a sterling junior career, and won NCAA individual and team championships as a collegiate golfer. Her path into the LPGA came easy at first, before back injury and doubt set her back. She details the highs and lows of her career, and talks about her mindset approaching this season and beyond. Enjoy!

51: Annie Park

Happy New Year! The whole crew sits down to first anoint what 2020 will officially be. Next, the guys review their performance of their 2019 goals, and finally, put their 2020 golf, physical, and life goals down on paper.

50: We’re on to 2020!

Tron goes 1-on-1 with Dylan Frittelli. The 29 year-old South African won for the first time on the PGA Tour in July of 2019 at the John Deere Classic (5th major!). Tron explores Dylan's background, his interests away from the course, and how he's approaching the new PGA Tour season. Dylan even tries to explain cricket to TC. Happy Holidays from the TrapDraw and hope you enjoy!

49: Dylan Frittelli

Randy is joined by author and golf course architect, Keith Cutten. They discuss Keith's book, "The Evolution of Golf Course Design," which is the December 2019 Reading Room selection. Keith's book details the history of design from the early days of the game until now, with emphasis on the architects, authors, and visionaries that shaped it all. This felt less like a typical interview and more like getting to attend a fantastically informative, entertaining lecture on something I love. Thanks to Keith and hope you enjoy!

48: Keith Cutten

Randy sits down 1-on-1 with NBC Sports broadcaster Terry Gannon for a discussion about his basketball career, his journey in television broadcasting, and the intricacies of calling golf. For those that may not know, Terry was a key member of the 1983 national champion North Carolina State Wolfpack basketball team which upset heavily-favored Houston in one of the most iconic title games ever. From competing in the star-studded ACC to some of his favorite memories of Coach Jim Valvano, it was a real treat to talk hoops with Terry. Beyond basketball, Terry talks about why he accepted a job to call figure skating in Tokyo in the 90s, and how that has led to a wonderfully diverse broadcasting career for him. This was immensely enjoyable, hope you enjoy!

47: Terry Gannon

Tron and Randy sit down with Marina Alex to talk about her golf journey, venturing into a number of topics along the way. Marina, currently ranked #30 in the Rolex Rankings, broke through last year with her first career LPGA win at the 2018 Cambia Portland Classic, a result which helped propel her onto this year's Solheim Cup team. We ask her all about that experience, along with finding herself in the Cup-deciding match against Suzann Pettersen--plus so much more!

46: Marina Alex

Tron and Randy are on site at the LPGA's CME Group Tour Championship and joined by Beth Ann Nichols, senior writer at Golfweek and guiding light for all things LPGA-related. In addition to previewing this weekend's championship, they discuss the state of the LPGA, breakdown some of the more interesting stories from the last couple months, and look forward to 2020 and beyond. Enjoy!

45: Beth Ann Nichols

No stranger to the TrapDraw, Neil Schuster (aka The Merch Czar) joins Randy and Tron to break down his recent trip out to Los Angeles for the joint birthday party of Tommy Armour III and IV. He found himself at a house party in the Hollywood Hills among a gaggle of B and C-List celebrities. He recounts his weekend and the guys touch on a few other topics along the way. Enjoy!

44: Neil Schuster aka The Merch Czar

Randy is joined by Gene Elliott, currently the top-ranked senior amateur golfer in the United States. The two of them explore Gene's golf career, from a boy in Iowa learning the game to most recently winning the illustrious Crump Cup at Pine Valley, along with so much more. Gene is affable, gracious, and open about his life and experiences. It's a distinct honor and pleasure to get to speak with Gene and I hope everybody enjoys the conversation.