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It's Solheim Cup Week and the TrapDraw heads to Toledo, Ohio! A criminally underrated Midwestern city, we examine what makes the place special thanks to our guest this week, Toledo native and current Loyola-Chicago men's golf coach, Erik Hoops. Erik grew up in Toledo, coached at the University of Toledo and caddied at Inverness. He's got a ton of passion for the place, which shines through in our chat. Enjoy!

The No Laying Up collective chops it up with a wide variety of guests from all corners of the golf world, and more importantly, guests from the golf-adjacent world. 



Episode 155: Holy Toledo!

We're headed to the mountains this week--beautiful Switzerland! The land of chocolate, knifes, watches, and secretive banking. Our guest is Pascal Fritsche (@p_friddy on twitter), proud resident of Basel, and our expert for all things Swiss. Besides having an awesome outlook on life, and wonderful energy, Pascal educates us on all of our inquires about his country. Pascal also has an incredible story concerning one of our show sponsors, Whoop, which he shares with us. Enjoy!

Episode 154: Switzerland

The Women's British Open is this weekend at famed Carnoustie so we brought in a true Scotsman, John Huggan, to talk about it. An up-front caveat, though, we spend more time discussing golf at large than we do Carnoustie, because in John's words, there's just not that much going on. So come for Tron and Randy discussing news of the day in the first part of the episode, and stay for John Huggan discussing his wider thoughts on the game of golf in the second part. You can find John writing at Golf Digest, and on twitter @johnhuggan. Enjoy!

Episode 153: Carnoustie

We're back from traveling and in preview mode on the TrapDraw! This week Tron and Randy head to Omaha, NE, in conjunction with the Korn Ferry regular season championship. They catch up on some items to start the show before welcoming on friend of the pod, and Omaha lifer, Michael Wilhelm. Michael shares all kinds of great insight and knowledge into what makes Omaha a wonderful place. Enjoy!

Episode 152: Omaha

In today's episode we talk to architect, writer, and author Jim Hartsell about his new book, "The Secret Home of Golf: The Authorized History of King-Collins Golf and the Creation of Sweetens Cove". Available now for pre-order from 

the book will ship in early September--perfect timing for you to get ahead of your Holiday shopping. Before discussing his book on Sweetens Cove, Jim discusses the influence Scottish golf has had on him, as well as classic golf writing. In fact, Jim has a series on Scottish golf currently going at our website, 

, and has pieces in 'The Golfers Journal' and 'Links Diary'. He and Randy then get into his new book, how it came to be, and a little bit of what it's about. Jim's passion for writing, Scottish links, and that wonderful little 9-holer set into the Sequatchie Valley in Tennessee permeates this discussion. Enjoy!

Episode 151: Jim Hartsell & 'The Secret Home of Golf'

Today's episode is a conversation with Golfweek's Beth Ann Nichols (@GolfweekNichols on twitter) all about the women's golf and the LPGA tour. Since the last time Randy caught up with Beth Ann back in early May a lot has happened--Nelly Korda is a major champion and #1-ranked player in the world, Yuka Saso took home the US Women's Open at Olympic (thanks, in part, to Lexi's Sunday collapse), and so much more. Randy asks her about the Evian and its standing on the women's major championship circuit, the Solheim Cup, and the new Commissioner. Lots of ground covered in this one and thanks as always to Beth Ann for his knowledge and insight. Enjoy!

Episode 150: Beth Ann Nichols

Maybe the forgotten country in the UK, the TrapDraw heads to Wales this week in conjunction with the Euro Tour to learn a bit about the place. Randy is joined by golf writer and Welshman, James Corrigan, to discuss the joys and beauties of his home land. From sights to see, cities to visit, and courses to play, we think you'll learn a thing or two about the country and maybe even be inspired to visit one day. Enjoy!

Episode 149: Wales

The TrapDraw is headed to Midland, Michigan along with the LPGA Tour this week to explore an area of the country that is often overlooked. Tron and Randy touch on a number of different topics to begin the episode before welcoming on former Midland resident, and Randy's old pal from graduate school, Scott the Arborist. Scott spent several years living in Midland after school and shares all the knowledge he has about his former home. Plus, a fascinating discussion on trees breaks out towards the end of the show. Enjoy!

Episode 148: Midland, MI

This is it, the final installment of the 'A Course Called America' Book Series! Randy and Tom Coyne discuss the conclusion of the book, talk about the golf lists at the back, and answer listener-submitted questions. The final 25 minutes of this episode is very special--Tom's father, Jim, the main inspiration behind the journey, joins to reflect on his own cross-country trip to San Diego so many years ago, as well as what it means to him to have read his son's words. Enjoy!

Episode 147: A.C.C.A. Book Series Part 4, ft. Tom Coyne and his Dad

This week's TrapDraw is a worldwide exclusive! Lee Sanderlin, of Jackson, Mississippi, joins Tron Carter to discuss his penance for finishing last in his fantasy football league--24 hours in a Waffle House (with time off for each waffle consumed). The story went viral last week and Lee, a big TrapDraw fan, eschewed larger media outlets to give us the exclusive. Hear all about the ordeal--the strategy, worst parts, lives he touched--and much more about Lee. Enjoy!

Episode 146: Lee Sanderlin & 24 Hours in a Waffle House

We're back with the third installment of the 'A Course Called America' book series, this time detailing the second half of the book (pages 195 and beyond). Randy and Tom chat about a litany of topics out of the book before welcoming on Ben Hotaling, one of the founders of Brough Creek National which Tom bestowed with the honor of the Great American Golf Course. Ben details what made him and his buddies create a seven-hole layout in one of their backyards, what he's learned along the way, and how people can go see and play it for themselves. Enjoy!

Episode 145: A.C.C.A. Book Series Part 3, ft. Tom Coyne & Ben Hotaling

The TrapDraw is headed to Maine this week in conjunction with the Korn Ferry stop! After a bit of housekeeping Tron and Randy welcome Maine native, Timothy Simons, on the show. He talks about growing up in Maine, how he found his way into acting, moving out to LA, and a lot more. Enjoy!

Episode 144: Maine

Another Perfect Club this week and we got the gang back together! DJ Pie, Kevin Van Valkenburg, and Randy discuss Bo Burnham's new Netflix special, "Inside". The trio talk about their knowledge of Bo Burnham before watching, break down the themes of the show, and discuss their thoughts while venturing down more than a few tangents along the way. Enjoy!

(Note: music clips appear off of Bo Burnham's album, "Inside (The Songs)" which is the soundtrack for this special)

Episode 143: "Inside" Perfect Club

We're back with Part 2 of the 'A Course Called America' book series with Tom Coyne! Randy and Tom discuss the first half of the book (pages 1 through 194) before welcoming on very special guest, Joel Murray. A product of the golf-obsessed Murray family, Joel talks about growing up caddying, what Canal Shores meant to him and his brothers, and of course so much more. Enjoy!

Episode 142: A.C.C.A. Book Series Part 2, ft. Tom Coyne & Joel Murray

This week we head to Sweden on the TrapDraw! The men's and women's European Tours are hosting the Scandinavian Mixed at Vallda G&CC in Gothenburg, Sweden. Unlike other mixed events, this is a singular competition involving the men and women for the week. It's a pretty cool concept and one Tron and Randy are eager to check out on Golf Channel. After covering some current events in Part 1, Tron chats with his wife's Aunt and Uncle, Stockholm residents and golf enthusiasts, all about their fine country. Main topics include golf, food and restaurants--enjoy!

Episode 141: Sweden

In this week's episode Randy talks to San Francisco-native, Kira Dixon. Kira works for both the Golf Channel and USGA and is covering the US Women's Open at Olympic Club this week. She discusses the role golf played in her childhood and how she found her way back to it professionally, how she got into pageant life (she was Miss America 2015), and a bunch more. Enjoy!

Episode 140: Kira Dixon

Better late than never this week! We are off to Las Vegas in conjunction with the LPGA Match Play event at Shadow Creek. Joining Tron and Randy is Benito Martinez, Vegas resident, and food/beverage extraordinaire. Benito has a long history in the restaurant business which he discusses before getting into his top picks for a trip out to Sin City. Whether you've never been (like us), or are a Vegas veteran, we promise you'll come away with a lot of new ideas, and food to try, on your next trip. Enjoy!

Episode 139: Las Vegas

Welcome to the first of four episodes exploring Tom Coyne's new book, "A Course Called America". While not a new concept broadly speaking, this book series is a new adventure here on the TrapDraw. And who better, and what better, to give it a go than Tom Coyne and his new book. The hope for this series is for listeners to pick up "A Course Called America" (details for that below), read it, and then tune in to hear an in-depth discussion of what they've just read, featuring not only Tom and Randy but special guests from the book. The Series schedule will be as follows:

Part 2: First Half of the Book--Thursday, June 10th

Part 3: Second Half of the Book--Thursday, June 24th

In today's show, Randy chats with Tom about the genesis for the book, how it differs from his Ireland and Scotland iterations, what it's like to plan a 50-state, 300-round golf odyssey, and so much more. Enjoy!