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THEY’RE BAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKK! We bring you a post Tourist Sauce, post Pebble crew of Soly, TC and KVV this Monday, ready to tackle a weather-shortened AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am and more stories from the golf week.

Wyndham Clark sets course record 60 in “final round” at Pebble Beach

The trio jumps into Wyndham’s historical round, but first – this is the seventh time Pebble has encountered some chaotic weather at this time of year. Tradition aside, does positioning the West Coast swing at this time make sense? That said, the adjustments to the Pro-Am format in capitalizing on a football-less weekend had the makings of a great week for the PGA Tour – until the inevitable came through.

He vaulted 22 places up the leaderboard on Saturday, which included two eagles. TC says it doesn’t count given that preferred lies were in effect.

They also go into the supposed observation that Wyndham intentionally manipulated the ground for his drop. Pebble’s epically soft greens warrant The Ripper Magoo Invitational title from Soly still applies.

TC calls for everyone to stop using Ludvig’s last name, and notes Ludvig’s improved putting on poa — calls this a “BDE win”...despite finishing second.

(35:40) Discussing Rory’s two-shot penalty over an improper drop rule.


(39:30) Wyndham on why he didn’t go to LIV, and how he didn’t shy away from sharing what his intentions were before and after he made the decision to stay.

(42:30) On the Rory-Spieth exchange: Rory apparently removed himself from group chat of some of the top players and had a one-hour call with Rory McIlroy after he made some comments 

signaling that the PGA Tour inking a deal with the PIF might not be necessary.

 Sounds like the last exec board meeting at Kappa Alpha Golf.


(50:00) Are the players really that committed to putting the fans first? (Props to anyone who joined live on the range Tuesday/Wednesday!) It’s not easy to get a player to sit down for an interview, KVV notes – and there’s a lot of scheduling snafus, issue, etc. but there’s a desperate need to connect the fans more deeply to the players they’re watching on TV.

Soly points out that initiative might not be the only narrow focus for the SSG guys – they might be asset-hunting ex. Pebble Beach, LPGA. There’s a lot more marketability for golf that exists outside of the PGA Tour vacuum.

More Pebble insights: Tom Brady’s Entourage reference (that the guys initially miss) and Soly reviews Neil’s Beluga Big Board.

Niemann wins at Mayakoba, but does LIV really have its moment?

(1:12:00) Joaquin Niemann wins LIV Mayakoba after a, uh, lukewarm thrilling. Since the court of public opinion is second-choicing LIV, the guys got to dive a little deeper – but was this actually an apt replacement? Additive at all? Mayakoba as a venue isn’t super attractive, and despite some of the most needle-moving stars in golf being lured away, it points back to the idea that fragmentation isn’t doing 

(1:29:40) Soly does a great job of ratio’ing the top LIV players to PGA Tour players in the top players in the world 

LIV also announces its “Any Shot, Any Time” feature as a collaboration with Google? Slated to debut this summer. Soly claims he is in wait-and-see mode.

Other golf headlines: Bernhard Langer, Dylan Frittelli

 Bernhard Langer tears his achilles and will miss what was poised to be his final Masters.


Dylan Frittelli wins the Bahrain Championship on the DP World Tour on the brink of a tough year – when he was on the verge of quitting golf altogether.

The guys wrap with some light commentary on the Xander Schauffele and Viktor Hovland withdrawals.


No live show on Super Bowl Sunday, but you can expect a Waste Management to hit your podcast feed by Monday morning.

KVV, I agree. There’s a little too much thirst trapping on the part of LIV in the implicit and explicit validation seeking. If it’s so good, why are the pro-LIV folks so thirsty for our fandom?


I agree with TC’s larger point that LIV should be luring more promising rising college stars – and that they’re a way better ROI – however, throwing a stray at the allegedly fluke-y U.S. Amateur was wrong. You reached and grabbed two fairly fluke-y examples from 2029/21. It’s started to defeat the fluke allegations in the past two years!


(On Neil’s Beluga Big Board) “I don’t even think he knew, either. It was kind of a vibe – if you came by the range and said hello, he probably bumped you up ten spots on the vibe list.” -Soly

“I asked the lady, I said, ‘Hey, is it crazy for me to get two soups?’ And she says ‘No, actually, that’s not crazy at all. Some guy was in here a few weeks ago and he got three soups.’” -TC


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A fresh, funny discussion of all things golf from the guys at No Laying Up. Episodes air twice a week and topics include tournament recaps, interviews, deep dive player profiles, golf travel, and more.

789 - AT&T Pebble Beach & LIV Mayakoba Recap Live Show

We're back and live from the range again at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, chatting with Lucas Glover, Maverick McNealy, tournament director Steve John, Sahith Theegala, and Justin Thomas. The Beluga also gives us big board for the entire tournament, we make some picks, react to the Tour investment announcement, player quotes, and a ton more. Thanks a ton to AT&T for having us out to do a show from the range, it was an absolute blast.

788 - LIVE from the Range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am

Live from the range at Pebble Beach for the first time, the guys chat about the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, welcome some guests including Kira K. Dixon and Max Homa, chat about their Australia trip, and what they've seen on the range here at Pebble. We'll be back for another live show from Pebble on Wednesday from 11PM ET to 2PM ET.

787 - LIVE from the Range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am

Matthieu Pavon wins the Farmers Insurance Open

(0:00) Matthieu Pavon won on a Saturday – because he’s just too big for the Grammys and football, duh. KVV is joined by Kyle Porter and Shane Bacon to dig into it all.


Porter and Bacon offer a lot of props for Pavon’s mental game in withstanding an up-and-down back nine. Some highlights include a crosshanded chip to five feet on 14 after missing the green long, and a nasty three-putt on 17. Fun fact: He’s got a tat that reads “The saliva that flows now will be the tears that flow tomorrow” – which KVV points out is likely a mistranslation.

Bacon recounts playing Torrey and how difficult the greens are to read. Porter says the Ludvig thing has gone too far – claims it has been at the expense of talking about Hojgaard!

Do we like Saturday finishes? Does this actually affect viewership? Brief kudos to Max Homa, friend to all.

(30:00) Yes, a debate about the best young European player breaks out. KVV reminisces on the mystique of the unseen European Tour of past.

And which PGA Tour player would you want/not want to handle nuclear missile operations? Adam Scott, Tyrell Hatton and Rory are mentioned.


(43:00) Why didn’t Finau, Schauffele go to LIV? Tossing some theories around. Feeling Jon Rahm’s absence even more deeply this week at Torrey Pines.


(54:00) Sponsors exemption controversy? Given that they all went to members of the…PGA Tour advisory board? Spicy! Webb Simpson, Adam Scott, Peter Malnati and Maverick McNealy…we’ll be watching you at Pebble.


Other golf headlines: The Match, Nick Dunlap, Anthony Kim + More

(59:30) The newest edition of The Match features Rory, Max, Lexi Thompson and Rose Zhang! Discussing the franchise and predicting how this one could go.


(1:08:00) I jump in for a quick Nick Dunlap/amateur golf pivot, after Nick Dunlap turned professional this week. What’s he capable of?

(1:13:00) Is a deal gonna happen!??!??! Are we almost done talking about this every single week? How do we proceed from a merger? Burn it all down?


(1:25:00) Some guy named Anthony Kim is coming back to golf. KVV poses the question: At 38 years old, what could his career look like? And what was Anthony Kim culture like? How romanticized is Anthony Kim’s career?


(1:38:50) Is Nelly Korda gonna get it done at the Drive On Championship? What’s keeping Nelly from being super dominant?

(1:43:20) Checking on the DP World Tour for the Ras Al Khaimah Championship.

(1:44:00) What makes a good buddies trip? Everyone offers their own unique spin – people, balancing the right amount of golf, location.

(1:58:00) This concludes KVV’s stint as designated survivor! Thanks for listening – the main crew will be back from Tourist Sauce this week! Make sure to tune into our Live from Pebble this upcoming week.

(54:00) Indeed, it is a little scandalous to award sponsor’s exemptions to members of the advisory board. With the vulnerable spot the PGA Tour is currently in, maybe think of handing them out to the most effective/compelling invitees, instead of minions–I mean, mules.

I can’t get down with Porter dismissing the Ludvig hype. I think Hojgaard is underrated too, but Ludvig is aptly rated – and deserves all the noise!

(1:23:50) KVV offers a mea culpa on his perspective of private equity.

(On Pavon’s tattoo) (20:30) “It did strike me as those American kids who get Chinese symbols on their shoulder or neck that are total mistranslations and no one has the heart to tell them that they’re wrong. There’s no way that he heard the SALIVA that flows will be the tears that flow tomorrow.” -KVV


(51:20) “I feel like I’ve been cheated out of Immelman and Nantz not talking about Devlin’s Billabong every time they come here.” -KVV

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786 - Farmers Recap

In this, the first in a series of what we’re calling “NLU Special Projects,” Kevin Van Valkenburg dives deep into the curious life story of Gary Player, the son of a South African miner who would go on to win more than 160 global tournaments over the course of his storied career.

785 - The Tall Tales of Gary Player

 Designated survivor KVV is back and this time joined by Golf Digest’s Joel Beall.


I DON’T GIVE A PISS BOUT NOTHIN' BUT THE TIDE: Nick Dunlap wins the American Express, becomes the first amateur to win a PGA Tour event in 33 years

(2:30) Someone call Roll Tide Willie – for the first time in 33 years, an amateur has won a PGA Tour event!


Alabama sophomore Nick Dunlap entered the final round of the American Express with a three-shot lead after a 12-under 60 had him surpassing the likes of Justin Thomas, Sam Burns, and Christian Bezuidenhout. Dunlap would eventually lose his lead but regain it after Sam Burn’s costly tee shot at the par 3 17th gave him a double and Dunlap a two-shot cushion.

KVV brings up a great question: Does it make sense for us to project enormous amounts of expectation on Nick Dunlap yet, even if he decides to turn professional?


This is the kind of feel-good stuff we seldom see from golf these days — and it’s worth taking a moment to bask in its greatness. Another rare part of golf? A visible sequence of amateur excellence in a short amount of time in Dunlap at the U.S. Amateur > Walker Cup > American Express.

And Phil and Tiger aren’t the only pro comparisons Dunlap gets…a certain Keegan Bradley in aesthetic sneaks in there. KVV and Joel also dig into the week that Burns, Thomas and Bezuidenhout had. Of course, Scottie Scheffler’s putting is a topic of conversation – but Joel alleviates any and all further concerns.


(39:40) If you win four times at the Desert Dubai Classic, does that equal one major? Don’t get your hopes up, Rory fans – I’m not sure this is how that works. Rory emerged in the early misfortune of Cameron Young and led by three shots at the turn. Even though he had a little deja vu moment on the 18th – leading by one – Rory managed to fend off Adrian Meronk and earn his 35th career win.


Joel raises the point that we’re numb to the usual excellence that is Rory McIlroy in recent years – especially since he’s not been able to update his major championship record.


KVV and Joel also get into Ryder Cup culture, Joaquin Niemann’s ranking comments and Haotong Li.

Lydia Ko wins at the Tournament of Champions

(1:04:00) Hand up – I thought it was over for Lydia, but we all know what happens when she gets an early season dub…it’s not quite over! She’s broken the winless streak and is just a point away from earning the last point (25) needed to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. She became just the seventh woman to reach 20 LPGA wins before the age of 27.

Joel says Lydia’s career hasn’t fully received its proper due – and KVV shares a few personal anecdotes about Lydia through his reporting career.

Alexa Pano’s runner-up finish has the guys covering her ascendance.

Other headline stories: Jay Monahan visits Saudi Arabia, Bernhard Langer, Sports Illustrated

(1:17:00) Everyone’s favorite new HBO drama, “The Framework Agreement,” continues. Discussing the development of the accusations against Yasir 

 Can anyone make the case anymore that the PIF is going to use golf as a force for good? Yeah, that seems to be going well.

(1:25:00) Talking Bernhard Langer’s last Masters. Fun fact: Langer was the last major winner to win with a persimmon driver!

(1:29:30) The passing of half of famer Jack Burke Jr., who won the Masters and PGA Championship in 1956.

(1:32:30) Angel Cabrera’s pursuit of returning to the United States, Tiger filing a trademark for a new logo.

(1:34:30) The mass layoffs at Sports Illustrated, and how it reflects a deeply troubled industry.

(1:44:00) What golfers would KVV or Joel open a bar with? Both reveal their top five picks to close the podcast segment.


(1:55:25) To close out the show, KVV reads his latest column,

 “Lost in the Sauce of Golf Training Aids,”

 a hilarious yet vulnerable peek at his reluctance to seek human assistance for his golf swing.

Slowing our roll on the Dunlap expectations! Yes, Dunlap just did something generational and deserves all of the hype. But we’re also allowed to bask in how incredible that is, instead of thinking about the next thing.


I think there’s some truth to the nonchalance that is Rory McIlroy winning an event that’s not a major – and some of that might have to do with what the week in golf looked like. However, why do we want Rory to win a major so badly? Because we know how good he is.

(12:30) “What Alabama boosters who are throwing all kinds of money right now are panicking about the current state of their athletic program with football – why wouldn’t they throw a bunch of money my way and I could try to win an NCAA Championship.” -KVV, on Nick Dunlap

(17:40) “Imagine if they replaced the sponsor’s interview with a parent cam? It never fails. There are moments of levity, but it really underscores the human being and says this is not just a performer. There can be really big stakes. I think my mom loves me to death, but I don’t think she loves me as much as Nick Dunlap’s mom.” -Joel

(1:49:00) “He just looks like a guy that should be in a pub at all times.” -Joel, on Shane Lowry

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784 - AmEx Recap with KVV and Joel Beall  

As the LPGA season kicks off Thursday at Lake Nona, we fire up the first of many LPGA-focused podcasts in the new year.

Ahead of the Tournament of Champions, our crew of Randy, Tron, Cody and Jordan go 24 for (20)24 with two dozen questions to be answered over the course of the upcoming season, including:

Our favorite venues and events on the 2024 schedule including a breakdown of the courses that will host the Women's PGA, US Women's Open and Open Championships

The season outlook for Lilia Vu, Nelly Korda, Linn Grant, Lexi Thompson, and several other big names on the LPGA

Our predictions for movement in and out of the Rolex Top 10, potential first-time winners in 2024, Player and Rookie of the Year awards.

Off-course rumblings around the rumored LPGA-LET merger.

783 - LPGA 2024 Season Preview

The Champion Golfer of the Year Brian Harman joins the pod to talk through his win at Royal Liverpool, how his life and playing schedule look after winning a major championship, his experience in Rome as a Ryder Cup rookie and a ton more.

782 - Brian Harman

Look at KVV – he’s the captain now! Or at least for the next few weeks. Call him our editorial director, designated survivor, whatever you want – but he’s leading the charge. For this week, he’s joined by Shane Bacon to unpack all the golf world buzz possible, and it starts right with the Sony Open and the Dubai Invitational.

(3:00) At the Sony Open, the leaderboard became a pileup – ultimately, a three-way playoff between Grayson Murray, Byeong Hun An and Keegan Bradley resulted in Murray winning with a birdie on the first extra hole. KVV and Bacon dig into the polarizing figure that is Murray, and the origins of his turnaround. Does his evolution signal something bigger in the context of identifying who’s who and story-building on the PGA Tour? Bacon encourages everyone to take inventory of the self-reflection Murray used.

(19:30) Noted Keegan Bradley stan KVV comes forward in mourning of some bad golf down the stretch, and gains an ally in Shane Bacon. They also sing praises for Byeong Hun An, who might be the only 1-iron player on Tour – but fell victim to a missed putt. Hun An has dealt with his own adversity – coming off of a suspension from the Tour after testing positive for “PEDs” – aka, a little cough syrup.

A questionable TIO ruling, where Carl Yuan clearly hit his ball OB, but was ruled to be in the grandstands? A lapse of judgment, but why anyone didn’t object to this questionable ruling remains a mystery. 

Perhaps there should be a rules official in the booth.

 The fourth round of the 2024 Sony Open was the day the term “virtually certain” was born – or not, according to the Rules of Golf, pointed out by Kyle Porter. That said, Bacon notes Yuan is one of the more entertaining players to watch on tour – in play and demeanor.


(45:00) Reacting to Gary Woodland’s vulnerable interview, where he revealed how grateful he was to be playing after the removal of his brain tumor.

(48:30) Tommy-lad sneaks past Rory with a birdie on the final hole to claim his 7th DP World Tour victory at the Dubai Invitational! No, TC didn’t fly across the ocean for this one, but he might as well have made a celebratory pit stop. Fleetwood entered the final round with a one-shot lead with Rory as his biggest threat. Instead, two clutch birdies down the stretch and Rory unraveling paved the way for the Englishman.

Bacon points out that in the history of Fleetwoods wins, this is among one of the most legitimate – considering Tommy hasn’t had to beat a ton of Rory McIlroys! The duo then engages the amount of crossover between the Cowboys and Rory, and their respective fanbases.

(1:03:00) The duo talka through Martin Slumbers’ tenure – credit to Geoff Shackelford’s list on the Quadrilateral – and react to his departure.

But that’s not the first hot topic departure — Keith Pelley is out as the DP World Tour commissioner, en route to becoming the president/CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment. Was he bouncing because of all of the potential merger drama? If so, who could blame him?

(1:12:20) Keith Weyand became Golf’s Most Hated for the week after taking a sponsor’s exemption at the Dubai Invitational and finishing…72 shots back.

(1:19:00) Tiger and Nike break up after 27 years. The duo reminisce on the iconic marketing moments.

(1:25:50) The two close the show answering one question: What does “GOAT” mean to you? Are we as appreciative as we could be over what we’ve experienced in the modern era of GOATs – Belichick, LeBron, Tiger, Saban, Serena – to name a few.

The main squad might be away for Tourist Sauce, but we’ve still got plenty of content coming your way — stay tuned for a fun narrative storytelling podcast coming up from KVV (hint: one of his favorite impressions to do), a Brian Harman interview and more!


Is reserved for the very end. I often think about the end of the GOAT era and how much it represents a lot of my own childhood, something I also took for granted! Seeing these GOATs off as an adult, I have a deeper appreciation for the memories they contributed to and what they represent in our culture.


Exists in the same spot as best take. KVV dashing all the hopes and dreams of delulu golf fans hoping every rising amateur star is the next Tiger. Including me.


(32:30) “They’re ‘virtually certain’ that the ball has gone into the grandstand and disappeared.” -KVV


(59:30) KVV: “I had several Cowboys fans in my DMs saying, ‘Man, you don’t get it, this year is different, you’re completely wrong!’ and literally after the game they were like, ‘I’m sorry, I take it all back. This is rock bottom. We are f***ed.”

Shane Bacon: “I almost think the comp is Cowboys fans and Rory fans.”

Geoff Shackelford’s piece on Martin Slumbers

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781 - Sony & Dubai Recap with KVV and Shane Bacon

Golf course architect Beau Welling joins the pod to talk through his design career which began under Tom Fazio and how his business made it through the financial crisis of the late 2000s. Plus, we detail his views on the current golf boom and how much of a role the pandemic played in the rise in golf participation. We also cover his work at the new Omni Frisco PGA Resort, working with Tiger Woods on some of his design projects, designing short courses, his thoughts as an architect on the distance debate and a ton more.

780 - Beau Welling

(0:00) Randy needs more plums! Or do we need a little more Chris Kirk? Chris Kirk opens up the season with a win at The Sentry in typical Chris Kirk fashion by narrowly avoiding a playoff with Sahith Theegala after birdieing the 17th hole for a score of…29-under.

Is low scoring a problem with this venue? Soly contests otherwise, adding that it feed to his golf nerd-ism. D.J. wholeheartedly believes uninvited resort guest Rahm would have blown the doors off of the field. Maybe THAT’s why he had to go to LIV.


Other Kapalua reactions follow, including Randy declaring that each member of the squad could par the 18th to hold on for a DUB.

(36:00) Is Scottie gonna stop living in denial of his putting demons? Are WE in denial of his improvement?

According to Data King Soly, Scottie has only lost strokes on the green in 3 out of his past 25 tournaments.

(40:00) Unpacking Kevin Kisner’s broadcast debut and how insightful and personable he was. Lots of great anecdotes feat. Homa and Cantlay. We want more Kisner!


(49:35) More thoughts and context on Rahm hanging around in Maui. Maybe he didn’t want to waste the money, but uh, didn’t this guy just sign his soul – I mean, athletic ability in exchange for exorbitant wealth?

(53:00) The guys collectively cringe at Jason Day’s newest fits…


(56:30) Discussing the audacity of Jordan Spieth to wear a very visible collar.


(59:30) D.J. explains the bootcampish rookie orientation the PGA Tour players endured, which involved flying to Honolulu, the location of the Sony, before many had to Monday qualify to get into that same event the next day. Mandatory good luck luaus are a thing, I guess.

(1:04:35) Debuting the SERVPro Mulligan segment, where we catch up on some mea culpas. Soly offers an apology on not seeking further context on Rory’s LIV comments, Neil on Clarence Thomas, Randy on Jordan Love and an NLU archival apology from D.J.

for the Happy Hour 2023 superlative showcase, 

reveals his own: the Bad Milk Award, the Fredo Award, the Prestige Worldwide Award, Worst Commercial of the Year, the Garbage Plate and What the Hell is Happening. He also offers his own 2024 predictions.


(59:30) The vocal mules are ignoring the bigger issues: Mandatory rookie luaus. Come on. A consensus, but D.J. is the one to bring it up in the first place – awarded to him.

I’m not going to bat for Malbon, because I think Jason Day’s fit was fairly egregious. However – I’m all for mixing the streetwear into golf vibe. The IYKYK of it is simply not…boasting the fact that you are being a superduper edgelord or whatever, which is probably what turns you all off! D.J. led the charge here, despite the consensus, so it goes to him.

(14:00) “Very much enjoyed that his kids are named Foster, Sawyer and Wilder. Those are peak Georgia names. Neil, maybe some future Marist school. They scream SAEs at UGA.” -Randy


(55:20) “I measure the passage of time by how old Dash Day looks.” -Soly

(1:15:50) “Chez – I can’t believe that he signed mule letter. Can’t believe he would let me down like that. Broke my heart. -Neil

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779 - Sentry Recap

We're back with new shows in the new year, kicking off our first "Happy Hour" presented by High Noon as we debrief on a Twitter spat with Brandel, hand out some more superlatives from 2023, revisit our 2023 predictions, make our predictions for 2024, catch up on Rory's interview, and of course, try to remember who won PGA Tour events in 2023.

778 - Sentry Happy Hour Preview

It's time to say cheers to ten great years of No Laying Up -- and what could be better than a history lesson? Just HOW did the golf group chat start?

Below, you'll find a breakdown of all the funny, cringe and endearing memories that make up the past decade of No Laying Up. I recommend listening to the podcast alongside it - their storytelling brings it all to life!

(4:45) College dorm neighbors TC and Soly at the Miami University of Ohio became fast friends after discovering a mutual love for the Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf and NCAA Football series. TC and Randy become fraternity brothers, with the budding golf fandoms slowly blooming. Learn about Soly's Y2K fashion statements, bad GPAs, the birth of the Tron Carter and Big Randy monikers - and how the aliases became necessary.

(21:30) January 2014 births the No Laying Up website. He and his roommate Matt McClure embark on coding the first No Laying Up website. Neil penned the very first post on the website, 

The PGA Tour was quite taken by the #takes being delivered by the No Laying Up Twitter account, but there was one employee in particular who had done so in admiration: D.J. Piehowski. He remained in their orbit for some time.

 Rising journalism star Neil Schuster flexes his interview skills at the infamous 

The guys get credentialed at a PGA Tour event, and the first podcast is released. Topics include 20-minute tirades about Matt Kuchar (if you can believe), top five PGA Tour events, one PGA Tour course outside of Augusta, next big Americans to win a major.

The day the NLU 40-email-long merch chain began.

, which Soly describes as NLU's "big break."

 and rub the media rights folks in Ponte Vedra the wrong way.

Justin Thomas comes on the podcast with a sleep-deprived Soly.

Other notable early guests: Shane Bacon, Kyle Porter, Kevin Van Valkenburg, Adam Sarson, Shane Ryan and Ashley Mayo.

(1:06:55) D.J., Soly and KVV meet for the first time at The Open in St. Andrews. Around the same time, the Tiger Tinder 

D.J. makes a sneaky podcast appearance after the Masters to talk about Spieth's collapse.

D.J. fixes spike marks at JFK, documents it on Vine (RIP) and wins the first #TourSauce in the wild competition.

Charles Howell approaches Soly and praises NLU at Memorial. Rory references NLU Twitter.

Rory taunts Soly at the Ryder Cup, which leads to 

his very first appearance on the podcast.

Somewhere around this time, Cody is introduced to the NLU content verse while deployed in Syria.

 The golf blog, "No Laying It Up," breaks the news that 

Soly and TC venture to Northwest England and initiated discussions about making NLU a full-time thing.

Soly submits his letter of resignation from KPMG.

The "Stand Up to Tron" movement begins on Twitter. The guys get invited to The Players.

In that same week, Soly stays in the locker room at Firestone GC.

Golf Adjacent, AKA, the Strapped prequel, 

Soly embarks on a short-lived journey to the Asian swing.

Killhouse lease begins, with Randy and Soly as its first occupants. As of December 31st, 2023, the Killhouse is no longer - but a deeper dive of the origins story of the Killhouse 

The Refuge message board is born, all derived from the creative genius of Big Randy.

Neil, armed with a t-shirt cannon, is nearly arrested outside of the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

, which proves to be quite the journey. Some insight into D.J.'s process, too.

 Randy gets backed down by Rickie Fowler at North Berwick.

 Elie Socks Day inspires looser sock decorum.

after a deep brainstorming sesh in the Native Sun grocery store bar.

The gang tapes a podcast with Max Homa that was never actually documented. The second take, recorded immediately after, 

There is also a deleted TrapDraw, No. 16, that airs out a lot of PGA Tour tea from a former PGA Tour employee.

The Strapped boys get caught playing a semi-public court.

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No Laying Up Podcast

789 - AT&T Pebble Beach & LIV Mayakoba Recap Live Show

788 - LIVE from the Range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am

787 - LIVE from the Range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am

786 - Farmers Recap

785 - The Tall Tales of Gary Player

784 - AmEx Recap with KVV and Joel Beall

783 - LPGA 2024 Season Preview

782 - Brian Harman

781 - Sony & Dubai Recap with KVV and Shane Bacon

780 - Beau Welling

779 - Sentry Recap

778 - Sentry Happy Hour Preview

777 - 10 Year Oral History

776 - 2023 Holiday Medley

775 - PNC Recap

774 - 2023 LPGA Season Review Part Two

773 - 2023 LPGA Season Review Part One

772 - Grant Thornton Recap, PGA Tour Investment News + Mike Whan & Martin Slumbers Interview