We recap JT's triumph at TPC Sawgrass, his incredible weekend ball striking display, Westwood's run, the incredible top/shank/queef sequence, Rory's comments, Bryson, course setup, every shot live, Brian Harman, and everything else from Players week.

A fresh, funny discussion of all things golf from the guys at No Laying Up. Episodes air twice a week and topics include tournament recaps, interviews, deep dive player profiles, golf travel, and more.

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NLU Podcast, Episode 409: Players Championship Recap

Soly sits down with Kevin Na and Marc Leishman to preview this week's Players Championship. First up, Kevin talks about his moment with Tiger Woods at the 2019 event, battling the yips while in contention at the 2012 Players, how he overcame that, how he sped up his pace of play, how he started converting top-10's into wins, walking in putts, and a lot more. Second up, Leish details a wild 2020 that saw some crazy highs and crazy lows. He chats about how he got his game back, what goes wrong when it goes wrong, and what it's like to tee it up in events when your best stuff isn't there. Thanks to both Kevin and Marc for the time.

NLU Podcast, Episode 408: Players Preview w/ Kevin Na and Marc Leishman

Home game for the TrapDraw this week! Always nice to sleep in our own beds as the Players Championship takes place in Ponte Vedra. Tron and Randy break down Florida's First Coast, from Amelia Island down to St. Augustine, with the help of Lew Turner, First Coast News. Lew is a staple of the early morning news program in Jacksonville, and has lived here for more than a decade. We talk about his career, his sleep schedule, his thoughts on a bevy of national news anchors, and so much more. Enjoy!

The No Laying Up collective chops it up with a wide variety of guests from all corners of the golf world, and more importantly, guests from the golf-adjacent world. 



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Episode 122: Florida's First Coast

Bryson! We chat about the content king, the lines on 6, what makes him successful on these setups, Bay Hill, Spieth, Westwood, and everything else from an eventful week. We also chat more about distance as it relates to this weekend, some coverage takes, and look ahead to Players week.

NLU Podcast, Episode 407: Bay Hill Recap

The Vacation Doctor will see you now! It's Mr. Palmer's event at Bay Hill this week, meaning we're of course in Orlando, FL. Tron and Randy do their thing in the first part of the episode before welcoming in Diamond Resorts CEO, Michael Flaskey (@TheVacationDR on twitter). Mike talks about the genesis of his golf tournament, the Diamond Resorts Tournament of Champions, how he ended up playing college baseball in Gaffney, SC, for a Hall-of-Fame manager, and his journey into the vacation business. Along the way we ask him about his home-city of Orlando, where he enjoys grabbing a bite to eat, and so much more. Enjoy!

Episode 121: The City Beautiful

Former caddie and current NBC/Golf Channel broadcaster John Wood joins us to answer basically any question you could ever throw at a caddie, including hirings/firings, caddie pay, travel arrangements, best and worst advice he's given, and funny things he's heard tour pros complain about. He chats about being on the bag for the 2010 Ryder Cup with Hunter Mahan, how the Kuchar/El Tucan situation played out, moving on from Kuchar's bag, and so much more. Absolutely loved this one, and appreciate Woody's time.

NLU Podcast, Episode 406: John Wood

Morikawa flexes on the field, The Concession shows out, Koepka makes a run, and everything else from an eventful week. We reflect on Tiger's accident, the future of WGC's, Rory, Scheffler, Hovland, Nelly Korda's win at the Gainbridge, some Ryder Cup chat, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 405: WGC-Workday Recap

Fun show this week! In the first half TC and Randy catch up on housekeeping items, including Kroger's very bad week and the United engine debacle, among other things. In the second half, Tron interviews special guest Ross (aka @man_integrated on Twitter, aka HUNTSMAN) about all things logistics across the world. Ross is a fascinating expert on global supply chains, speaking to some of the biggest challenges and obstacles present in the world right now. We promise you'll learn a thing or two. And remember, watch the chokepoints!

Episode 120: Logistics with HUNTSMAN

Chip Beck joins us to chat about his career, shooting 59, his close calls, the 1993 Masters, losing his game, getting it back at the Champions Tour level, and a whole lot in between. This man can tell some stories. Really enjoyed this one, and appreciate Chip's time.

NLU Podcast, Episode 404: Chip Beck

Max Homa! The 2021 Genesis Invitational champ (briefly) calls into the show, and the boys react to his emotional win, Finau's incredible Sunday 64, a wild Saturday at Riviera, Mike Whan at the USGA, and a lot more from an action packed week.

NLU Podcast, Episode 403: Genesis Recap

Riv week! One of the best stops each and every year in the glitz and glam of Los Angeles. Randy and Tron are joined by friend of the program, and part-time golf scribe, Laz Versalles, to break down the behemoth that is LA. We learn all about LA proper, get great info about little neighborhoods and pockets of the city, and of course, discuss so much more. Enjoy!

Episode 119: City of Angels

Justin Suh's professional golf career so far has been quite a journey. He details his experience chasing Monday qualifiers, traveling to places like Peru, Oman, Argentina, and many others, what encouraged him to donate half of his earnings from the Farmers Insurance Open, battling wrist injuries, his college success, and so much more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 402: Justin Suh

Daniel Berger wins at Pebble, Spieth comes close, Nate lashes out, and everything else from a fun week. We chat about Berger's closing ability, his suspicious alignment of putts, what to take away from Spieth's week, some rules issues, Patrick Reed's Ryder Cup future, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 401: AT&T Pebble Beach Recap

Kamaiu Johnson joins the pod to update us on his recovery from a COVID-19 diagnosis that caused him to miss his PGA Tour debut at Torrey Pines. Fortunately, Kamaiu has received a sponsor's exemption to this week's tournament at Pebble Beach and we discuss his first exposure to the game of golf, the golf community's efforts to improve its racial diversity and much more. Best of luck to Kamaiu this week at Pebble!

NLU Podcast, Episode 400: Kamaiu Johnson

Tron and Randy are back to preview Pebble Beach! They do a bit a housekeeping (huge night in the NBA, Kings and Jazz especially!) before getting to their guest this week, Joann Dost. Joann is a longtime Monterey-area resident, former professional golfer, and one of the most prominent golf photographers in the world. She has great first-hand knowledge of the charms and intricacies of the Monterey Peninsula, as well as incredible stories about her first start in professional golf in Australia, moving out to the west coast, hanging with Ansel Adams, and so much more. Her passion and knowledge is unparalleled. Enjoy!

(Note: due to reception, we switched from Zoom to cell phone midway through the interview with Joann, so we apologize for a slight change in audio profile around the 57:27 mark)

Episode 118: Monterey Peninsula

We react to a wild week at the Waste Management, including Koepka's furious finish, Spieth's insane Saturday, his future (is he back?), TPC Scottsdale, Xander's Sunday struggles, and everything else from the desert. We also discuss DJ and Finau in Saudi Arabia, a tough Sunday of TV coverage, and this week's consequential report from the USGA & R&A.

NLU Podcast, Episode 399: Waste Management Recap

After a bit of house-cleaning in the beginning of the episode (major news in the Grocery Wars!), TC and Randy make the decision to eschew one desert in favor of another on this week's preview episode. For help, they bring in very special guest, Mr. Cody, to ask all about KSA. Cody is a man with a very particular set of skills who has spent quite a bit of time in the region and shares his experiences and insights about the people, the culture, the Royal Family, Vision 2030, and how average Westerners can approach the topic of Saudi Arabia in general. We should note, as part of preparation for this conversation, we all watched Bryan Fogel's new film, "The Dissident", which is available now on Apple TV. For anybody curious it's an enthralling examination of the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi in 2018. Enjoy!

Episode 117: The Kingdom

Geoff Shackelford joins to help breakdown the latest announcement from the USGA/R&A about potential rule changes and other areas of interest. Geoff has long been an advocate for distance limitations in golf, and has more knowledge on the topic that pretty much anyone in the game. We pick his brain with some common arguments we hear against rollback/bifurcation, take some listener questions, discuss what the new landscape might look like, and a lot more.

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