Soly is joined by DJ and Randy for a look ahead to this week's Players from TPC Sawgrass. After Soly sprinkles in a few nuggets from his day at the course we play 'Buy or Sell' on a number of topics around this week's event (the lack of a repeat winner, Monahan's presser and future as commissioner, the event's claim of the strongest field in golf) as well as the prospects for a number of the biggest names on tour who figure to be in contention on Sunday.

802 - Players Preview

The biggest stars descended on not Hollywood, but Bay Hill! Soly invites the Pie Man and KVV to help dissect one of the most blockbuster weeks on the PGA Tour.

Scottie Scheffler wins the Arnold Palmer Invitational by six shots

Scottie led the field in SG putting on Sunday – say it ain’t so! Scottie won in a commanding fashion in the final round, where he entered the day leading by two and led by five with just eight holes to play. His closest threat was Wyndham Clark who crashed on the front nine after three bogies.

Is there any fit challenger to Scottie’s campaign to repeat at The Players or Masters?

 KVV insists that the golf media at large, us included, has to do a better job of highlighting some of the up-and-comers versus the established guys (who for the most part are stinking it up). D.J. counters by saying there are two different kind of fans – the diehards, who take interest in these rising stars, and the casuals, who want to be entertained by the usual.

D.J. brings up the fact that there’s a golf course issue on the PGA Tour, and Bay Hill, a signature event, amplified that.

The guys do an Around the Horn format of their three favorite things this week. They start with of these include Willy Z’s continued re-emergence and raging Rory.

Some praise for Matteo Mannesaro, who wins for the first time in 11 years. A former British Amateur champion.

 The spectrum of LIV takes is fairly enormous – and maybe the only way to move this forward is pure neutrality in terms of attitude (as far as performance goes).

AK shoots a final round 65 – nice! Does this really instill any hope about a career revival? Probably not. Let’s hope he’s enjoying himself!

What is our review of Smylie Kaufman’s Happy Hour? Let Smylie (organically) cook!

 Some love for the always chaotic No. 6 at Bay Hill. We miss you, Bryson.

 Have our feelings changed at all on Bay Hill? If there’s gotta be a lukewarm signature event, guess it’s gotta be this one. It remains kinda juiceless – is it supposed to be a chipping contest? What does it want to be?

Joe Ogilvie joining the PGA Tour Advisory Board is an interesting development. Bailey Tardy, previously called out by the Big Man, wins at Blue Bay LPGA, besting Lydia Ko who was once again on the verge of her final HOF qualifying point.

Sahith is DRIVING the ball! Wyndham Clark is a sustainable badass – consider his past year: Wells Fargo, U.S. Open, Pebble (nearly the course record).

Err, let’s talk about the Wyndham ruling a bit? Did he intentionally move his ball?

Jordan Spieth! 72 holes! Do they go together anymore?

More LIV insights, including some good performances from Bryson and Cam Smith.

What questions do we have for Jay Monahan as he addresses the media this week at The Players? Is he still committed to striking a deal with the PIF?

A gentleman named Phil Landes submits a question to the live show, wondering if Ed Herlihy and Jimmy Dunne are still saving this golf thing or whatever.

A Caffeine TV viewership update: 2M this week! Soly points out the daily users rounds out to 10k………….tough.

 and while KVV hasn’t watched it yet – he’s accepted his flowers in terms of being correct about Keegan Bradley.

Wyndham Clark didn’t win this week, but it feels like his entire past year is a capital W, like his name – and I think continuing to identify just how threatening he is in terms of majors/the remaining signature events is the nuance his play deserves.

 While I don’t entirely disagree with KVV about platforming rising stars

- it’s tough to do it when there’s very little consistency between these rising stars. Ludvig is the one name that stands out. He’s been able to sustain success in his rookie year and made an enormously strong case for why the best college player should have a PGA Tour card. But there’s few narratives that are easy for the two camps D.J. mentioned to string together.

“There’s no one not playing fantastic golf that’s getting shut out of these events.” -Soly

 “(D.J., on the YouTube TV catch-up feature) There was 36 of them, and 12 of them were playing through. True nesting doll of ads-type stuff.” -D.J.

 “I feel like Tron is the only person who covers LIV honestly. He’s the only person who gets mad when his team stinks.” -KVV

 (On Spieth) “The guy is playing golf like he’s got two months left on the lease and he’s not getting his security deposit back.” -Soly

Paolo Uggeti’s feature on what Will Zalatoris has been through and what’s gone into the comeback

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801 - Bay Hill Recap

NLU Podcast, Episode 800: Arnold Palmer Happy Hour

Back with our High Noon Happy Hour Live Show, we preview the week at the Arnold Palmer Invitational, chat about Bay Hill, some API trivia, and discuss field sizes. Plus news, comments, laughs and more. Cheers!

800 - Arnold Palmer Happy Hour

NLU Podcast, Episode 799: Netflix Full Swing Season 2 Deep Dive

As the second season of Full Swing gets released on Netflix this week, Soly, DJ and Neil hand out their reviews of the sophomore installment for the series. We touch on the episodes that we liked, the ones that were duds, improvements from season one, how we view the 2023 Ryder Cup differently in light of the final episodes, and the stories we wish would have been a part of the retelling of the 2023 year in professional golf.

799 - Netflix Full Swing Season 2 Deep Dive

A TrapDraw tradition returns for a fifth installment - it's our Oscars preview extravaganza as DJ and Randy are joined by Timothy Simons (@timothycsimons). We break down our favorite movies, actors/actresses and moments from the films we viewed over the past year as well as our picks for the worst movie we saw in the last twelve months.

Then it's on to a look at each of the ten films nominated for Best Picture and how we ranked them individually (1:01:30). We wrap the episode with some discussion on the Oscars ceremony itself and our best guesses for who'll take home the awards on Sunday night.

279: 5th Annual Oscars Extravaganza with Timothy Simons

It’s a present tense kind of show notes week. What does that mean?

Well, the Cognizant Classic will see a Monday finish after a typical Sunday in South Florida occurred. At the time of my writing this, the final group is through

Guess Garfield’s in for an interesting Monday of golf.

But before they jump into that, Soly and the Schuster brothers start things off a little differently this week with a Pro Golf Fantasy Draft. And no, it’s not in connection with the current pro golf year. 

Points allotted by tournament victories/finishes:

For posterity, let’s document their answers (this is a snake draft format):

 1. Viktor Hovland 6. Ludvig Aberg 7. Patrick Cantlay 12. Justin Thomas 13. Tommy Fleetwood 18. Joaquin Niemann 19. Nick Dunlap 24. Sahith Theegala 25. Sungjae Im 30. Tony Finau

 2. Scottie Scheffler 5. Rory McIlroy 8. Xander Schauffele 11. Will Zalatoris 14. Cam Smith 17. Bryson DeChambeau 20. Jordan Spieth 23. Hideki Matsuyama 26. Nicolai Hojgaard 29. Tom Kim

 3. Jon Rahm, 4. Brooks Koepka 9. Collin Morikawa 10. Max Homa 15. Wyndham Clark 16. Gordon Sargent 21. Cameron Young 22. Matt Fitzpatrick 27. Daniel Berger 28. Sam Burns

Enormous Sunday delay brings the Cognizant classic to a Monday finish

The three-hour rain delay was ALWAYS in the forecast. Could make things very complicated for the Seminole Pro-Member!

TC’s boy Austin Eckroat is 15 with 12 holes to play.

 Eckroat earned his first PGA Tour victory in a three-shot win!)

The board member Signature event sponsor’s exemptions have once again been distributed! Soly likens it to the Nancy Pelosi stock gameplay.

That said, the recipient of one of those, Webb Simpson, had some insight on the future of the game, and made comments such as reducing field sizes from 156 to 144, and associating the idea of transparency with Jay Monahan.

How valid are these sponsor’s exemptions re: the merit of these players?

 TC offers a shoutout to Bud Cauley’s comeback.

 Addressing the Rory to LIV rumors – signs point to 

, but he’s certainly not shy about his discontent toward the PGA Tour.

Where’s Rory on the PGA Tour in 2024? His play remains really lackluster.

LIV King Abdullah Economic City: Anthony Kim, Niemann wins by 4

Is there a chance Anthony Kim is a pawn in this weird golf war? We need him to shine a light on his own story. It’s a lukewarm outcome whether he wins on LIV or not, but as Neil points out, this is the best-case scenario for him.

2 million people allegedly watched Anthony Kim on this “Caffeine TV” network…

Joaquin LIV slayer Niemann once again complains about the OWGR in his post-win reaction.

Talor Gooch buys a professional bullriding team? A W in a massive L week in which Gooch says if Rory completes his career grand slam without some of the best players in the world, there will be an asterisk – of course, Gooch is currently not in the Masters.

Oh, and according to the Times, LIV is involved in an 8 figure lawsuit with Andy Gardiner/the PGL.

Other headlines: Hannah Green wins HSBC Women’s World Championship in dramatic fashion, The Match

Hannah Green made a 30-foot bomb to win the HSBC Women’s World Championship by one over Celine Boutier.

The Match featuring the Rory McIlroy, Max Homa, Rose Zhang and Lexi Thompson was a ratings disappointment. But that sounds like a great lineup! What’s the issue? Are there too many cooks in the kitchen?

The golf was cool, but the performance was awkward and stilted. It feels like trying too hard for virality. Soly will NOT apologize to DJ Khaled, who correctly reported that he showed up and thought 

TC shows the 117th Argentina Open some love.

The Seminole Pro-Member is on Monday…so what happens to the Cognizant players who are in it?

Irish golfer Joe Lyons wins the Spanish Senior Amateur, but had to throw his trophy away because RyanAir wouldn’t let him bring it on.

TC saying the game should erupt in even more chaos at this point. It couldn’t feel much more bleak, so why not? And the faster it bottoms out, says Soly, the faster it will come together again. The houses are on fire, but the entire neighborhood should just go up in flames.

I’m not sure if there are too many cooks in The Match kitchen – while they could subdue the booth a little bit more, I think it all comes down to selecting the right mix of personalities. I could never picture Rory, Max, Lexi and Rose hanging out voluntarily. The YouTube golf formula has kind of proven it doesn’t matter who is playing, as long as they’re in sync!

 “This is the worst thing we could have done, was giving him the last pick. Next name you say, TC, is your pick.” -Soly

“Webb is one of those guys that’s going to take advantage of that top 30 career money list exemption. We’re all looking for the guy that did this – and all these guys have been on the policy board at different points and enacted all these get out of jail free cards.” -Tron

 “If there were 2 million people on Caffeine TV, stop telling me about it. Just have the 2 million people. Just keep them. Stop trying to make me have FOMO. I don’t have it.” -Neil

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798 - Cognizant Check In + LIV Jeddah Recap

Neil, Randy and KVV are back with another Perfect Club edition of the Trap Draw as we look back at the landmark sports documentary "Hoop Dreams". The film - released 30 years ago - profiles Arthur Agee and William Gates and their journey through Chicago high school basketball.

After some self-examination of our own relationships with basketball, we look at the undertaking of the filmmakers and how the project evolved from a planned 30-minute PBS special to the final cut of nearly three hours, why the film resonates three decades after its release, how the culture around high school and college basketball has changed, our favorite scenes from the film and our reflections on the film's impact on the sports documentary genre.

278: 'Hoop Dreams' Perfect Club

Daniel Berger stops by to talk with Soly about his back injury and the road back to reclaiming his physical health and his place in the competitive golf landscape. We also cover his experiences in team competitions, playing money games with tour pros as a high school-aged kid, his mental approach to golf and his injury rehab, the changes on tour while he was away and a ton more.

797 - Daniel Berger

Apple Podcasts: NLU Podcast, Episode 796: Mexico Open Recap

Spotify: NLU Podcast, Episode 796: Mexico Open Recap

Soly, TC, and Neil must have completed their DuoLingo lesson of the day before they hopped on, because they practiced their Spanish game as a greeting! The only thing that would have made this podcast better is if they tried to do the whole episode in Spanish. The best pronunciation goes to the Schuster brother who spent his week in the opposite climate of Vidanta Vallarta…

Jake Knapp wins the Mexico Open for his first career victory


 Soly exposes the scripts we’ve all been fed as PGA Tour propagandists. JK. It’s been a rough go being a fan of men’s professional golf. This is absolutely no shade to Jake Knapp, whose two-shot win at the Mexico Open and infusion of personality was a welcome sight.


Sunday’s final round had Jake Knapp starting out with a four-shot lead over Sami Valimaki before he bogeyed the first and third holes with that quickly vanishing.

Valimaki tied things up with an eagle on the 7th but entered some bogey trouble on the back nine, but Knapp managed to hold on tight despite making just two fairways, going bogey-free to win by two.

Soly was stunned by how surprising Sami Valimaki’s aesthetic was. And of course, by nature of being a Finnish player, TC claims he had him on his shortlist. That said, how do the guys feel about the results of the PGA Tour-DP World Tour alliance so far re: talent promotion?


The guys dig into a great question from LordBenne: “Would Knapp's win (a legitimate accomplishment for a KFT grad) be less derided if the Tour wasn't coming off a hugely underwhelming West Coast swing?”

TC engages in some Big Tone erasure in misremembering last year’s winner but brings up a valid concern about how his contrarian soft spot for opposite field events has slowly eroded. The level of care between weird rules violations, juiceless fields and setups fails to really substantiate the ever so inflated purses.

There was a seemingly erroneous unplayable awarded to Valimaki, whose ball landed in underneath the fence which was still inbounds. He ends up taking a drop on the sand, which was deemed a continuation of the cart path??? The gang (and perhaps the audience) wasn’t sure what to make of it considering S. H. Kim got a free drop from the fence on Friday, but Valimaki had to take an unplayable on Sunday. Thank god there are only millions of dollars at stake!


Lots of free promo for Florida accident attorneys in likening them to new-age rules officials.

In order to make this season of the PGA Tour a little more palatable, the guys turn their attention to (possibly the first time ever) the FedExCup standings.

Other golf news: Masters special invites, Bryson interview, Anthony Kim’s upcoming LIV debut, Patty T wins again

Masters special invites! Now Joaquin Niemann can be happy. Thorbjorn Olesen, Nieman and Ryo Hisatsune will be a part of the field.


 Digesting the Bryson interview and his recent comments about the OWGR…where he falsely claims LIV events fulfill all the criteria and Jerry Foltz says OWGR doesn’t matter? Guess he’s been reading up on some Jung, as he says the “death to egos” needs to occur.

 Anthony Kim will be returning to golf at LIV Jeddah, which could literally mean anything.

 Jon Rahm did a very revealing interview with ESPN’s Marty Smith. He remains pretty forward and just underwhelmed about LIV Golf in general.


 Charlie Woods shot an 86 at the Cognizant Pre-Qualifier…which is to be expected, considering he is literally 15-years-old. What was totally inexcusable was the fan behavior at his qualifier, which according to Emilee Smarr of the Palm Beach Post, 

Darius van Driel wins the Magical Kenya Open. Joe Dean, who was working as a delivery driver, earns a life-changing 200k check.

Patty Tavatanakit wins for the second week in a row, this time earning an LPGA victory at the LPGA Thailand after winning on the LET the week before.

Bronte Law wins the LET Lallya Meryem Cup

The Match, with Rory/Max/Rose/Lexi airs Monday, 2/26!

TC played with THE John Minnium! Soly goes into his past week at the Gasparilla, which we’ll have a FULL recap on in an upcoming Film Room!

June 6th was, essentially, smoke! An announcement of doing the absolute least, in the name of warding off scrutiny. Players have been poached. LIV isn’t going anywhere – and the PGA Tour looks more and more embarrassing.

TC, please! The OWGR does matter! The majors remain the most juiced-up parts of the year! And they’re juicier by the week. Don’t fall for the Bryson/LIV denial. The metrics are questionable, but it’s what we have.

“I wish it was called the BDE qualification system.” -Soly


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796 - Mexico Open Recap

TC & Randy are back to chop it up this week! They cover some recent personal travel, discuss what they're watching/eating/listening to, and then dive into the biggest news and sports stories from around the world. Enjoy!

277: TC & Randy Chop Session

As the LPGA Tour's spring Asian swing kicks off in Thailand this week our LPGA pod crew of Randy, Cody and Jordan break down the Tournament of Champions and the Drive On, won by Lydia Ko and Nelly Korda, respectively. Then it's on to LET and the Saudi Ladies International (23:20) where Patty Tavatanakit won with a seven-under final round 65 and offered some candid thoughts on her recent struggles in her post-round interview.

We then look ahead to the weekend in Thailand and some of the notable names in the field (40:30) as well as a look ahead to the latest iteration of The Match involving Lexi Thompson and Rose Zhang. Then, Jordan helps us get up to speed on the latest from the women's amateur golf scene before we close with a look at some of the notable rookies on the LPGA Tour this year (54:20) and some assorted news and notes.

795 - LPGA Check-In

Apple Podcasts: NLU Podcast, Episode 794: Genesis Recap


Spotify: NLU Podcast, Episode 794: Genesis Recap

HIDEKI MATSUYAMA WINS THE GENESIS INVITATIONAL WITH A FINAL ROUND 62

 A trio of Soly, Public Defender Randy and KVV form to dissect a dramatic week at Riviera.

If anyone was watching Wyndham closely at Pebble Beach, it was Hideki, who nearly set a course record of his own at the final round of the Genesis. He started the day six shots back and won by 3 – but how?! A final round 62 with three straight opening birdies and a back nine 30 did it. According to datagolf, beloved Masters champion Hideki fell to World No. 63. What a comeback!


 Even so, this week didn’t save the PGA Tour’s anticlimactic start to the year. Soly officially adds himself to the list of people who yearn for Jon Rahm and other energizing LIV defectors.


The West Coast swing is over, and it’s hard to feel like it catalyzed much of the PGA Tour season. The stars haven’t won and the mules are running rampant.


 Randy’s Valentine, Willy Z, and fellow back injury sufferer was Hideki’s greatest challenger. The guys get into a conversation about what makes Will Zalatoris’ game so captivating – and Randy relates to Willy Z’s putting struggles.

Since we’re all rallying behind Willy Z, why do we gravitate toward certain players. Is it all off the course? Is it all game? Body language?

 Hot take time: Willy Z is winning a major this year! -Soly (Quick, everyone, bookmark this!)

Emo Patrick Cantlay is insufferable. And he’s slow. And he played like garbage. This is the best way I can sum up KVV’s rant. We know he can be pensive! It’d be nice to see more of that.


 Scottie is cooked until the putting is fixed. This is slowly becoming the most frustrating in golf. The “I can fix” him reaction from Soly and frustration from Soly just feels like a bad relationship. It’s time to start seeing other golfers, Soly. What happened to your Valentine, Sahith?

his way out of the Genesis Invitational? Seems legit, but also, there’s every reason to feel like it wasn’t either.

Where does he go from now and between the Masters? He DID say he’d play once a month, after all.


Let’s talk about the Spieth DQ. Is it valid? Should players be responsible for keeping their own scores? Uh, yeah. There’s A LOT of deliberation and down-time between shots.

Where Spieth went wrong is there was a reported discrepancy between Spieth and Tom Kim’s cards. Spieth allegedly had the runs, so he ran signed and ran off.

Other items from Riviera: The fourth hole stinks. Public defender Randy steps in once again to argue that it’s fine.

Viewership is proving fragmentation has adversely affected public interest. The Tour is trying its best, and the public indifference to golf on the CW is obvious. Sigh.

and interesting camera angles from the week! Yes, we’re still getting used to the lack of a coverage gap.

 Viktor, step up! Let the answer to his short-game woes go but has struggled to get it going this year.


KVV notes that sure, Viktor might wait to peak at the right time, but he’s too young to save his good play exclusively for the majors.

(1:46:00) OTHER HEADLINES: SUSPICIOUS CAT BEHAVIOR, TAVATANAKIT WINS


David Puig won on the Asian Tour to grab a spot in the Open Championship. If you remember, Puig was an Arizona State two-time All-American who left to LIV after his junior year.

The LPGA returns for its first Asia Swing in a few weeks.

The Phoenix Open is conducting an operational audit.

Oh yeah, before we forget: The Cat and Gary Woodland peeped into JT’s bag to figure out what he was hitting. The Cat signals that JT’s hitting an 8-iron from Gary Woodland. You’re allowed to check inside of someone’s a bag, but are you allowed to communicate that to a playing partner?

 Soly previews his week at the Gasparilla Invitational and provides an update on his game! We’ll be releasing another film room following his adventure.

I’m on board with the bad start take, which isn’t a fresh one – Neil mentioned this last week. This week didn’t hurt the Tour, sure – there was plenty of drama and a Masters champion won. However, allow me to take the underwhelming start thought a bit further.


What if the mule uprising is the result of some well-calculated uh, bad luck? Scottie is still at war with his putter. Rory is fairly absent in PGA Tour success. Viktor is not one. Yeah, mhm, Tiger has the flu. Spieth knows the rules. Don’t you find all of this fairly…suspicious? ESPECIALLY after their big threatening mule letter? Think about it and get back to me.

Randy, you’re super brave for playing public defender but there’s simply no reason why a golfer, who has few fight or flight moments in 18 holes of golf, shouldn’t be able to maintain their score – especially on the highest levels of professional golf where 99 % of players are using caddies, and have few responsibilities on them.

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Accepts responsibility for jinxing Spieth, Max Homa, and Willy Z on Twitter. Sent all the positive vibes out there only for each of these three to come crashing down in his own unfortunate way.

Would like a mulligan on selecting the people’s choice of a winner, instead of listening to his heart: Willy Z.


Erroneously said Congressional had hosted its first major in 1997 

 Congressional’s first major was *NOT* in 1997! It hosted the U.S. Open in 1964.


 “Give me five minutes and he (Scottie) could be the best putter in the world.” -Soly

 Soly: How did ambulance 69 pull up for Cat?

There’s things that tell me there is a higher power – somebody is looking down and laughing.

 “If I catch a competitor looking at my bag, I might fight them! I’m tired of all these guys being buddy-buddy all the time.” -Randy


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794 - Genesis Recap

Our #BallKnowers have gathered for a full debrief on Kyle and the 49ers' loss to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. We also break down each of the playoff teams, other notable moments from the past season, the recent coaching moves around the league, and look ahead to the upcoming offseason.

Please note: This episode was recorded late Tuesday night before the tragedy at Wednesday's championship parade in Kansas City and all of us at NLU extend our deepest condolences to those affected by the shooting.

276: The #BallKnowers 2023-24 NFL Season Recap

Back with our second High Noon Happy Hour live show, we preview the week at the Genesis, chat about what makes Riviera special, send some Valentines, make our picks for the week, discuss "Sun Day Red," our expectations for Tiger this week, and everything else you need to get hyped for the best PGA Tour event of the year.

793 - Genesis Happy Hour

Apple Podcasts: NLU Podcast, Episode 792: Billy Horschel

Spotify: NLU Podcast, Episode 792: Billy Horschel

After an eventful weekend in Scottsdale, Billy Horschel returns to the pod to talk through his experience with the crowd at the WM and how the event has changed throughout his career. We also get into the PGA Tour/SSG deal, PIF investment, differing opinions on the road back for LIV players, his interview after shooting 84 at the Memorial last year and a ton more.

Here's a preview of Soly's conversation with Billy...

 June, 2022, you win the Memorial tournament by four strokes, June, 2023, you opened the first round within 84 and you are in tears talking about it to the media after the round. Take us there, take us to that, to that journey and how, how you ended up there and, and, and what unfolded there.

Nothing captures golf better than that. You win by four one year and you're in tears shooting 84 the next year.

 It's a game of golf. I mean it's so crazy. You know, it was weird. I come off '22 having a really good year. Win Memorial, make a Presidents Cup team. I just missed cracking the top 10. A gold mine, crack the top 10, top five. And if one day lo and behold I get the number one, like that's a goal. I'm a perfectionist and I want to get better and I'm always trying to get better. Todd Anderson and myself, we were just looking at some things that we didn't swing it very good at the end of '22. And so we were just trying to make some improvements and we sort of went back to something that we tried to do a few years ago and we felt like we were just in a better position to do it now physically and where the body is.

And I had a better understanding of it. And so for six weeks at home it was really good and I went out to Hawaii the first two weeks and it wasn't so great. And I came back home and worked with TA for a couple weeks and went out to Phoenix and LA and it wasn't really, it just, it just didn't transfer over. And we decided to sort of drop in, go back to what we were doing before, stuff that we've always done. But some of the stuff that we tried to make improvements on.  The new stuff actually transferred over to the old stuff, which was actually a really good thing.

And so I felt like I was doing some right things. But the game, the shots just still weren't turning out the way I wanted them to. You know, make a cut, feel like I get some momentum and then I'll miss a cut next week, which is so weird 'cause my stats guy will tell you I'm around like 85% made cuts in my career. Close to 85 to 90%. So make a cut. Miss a cut. Make a cut. Miss a cut. It was so weird. And then I go to Memorial and what was the before Memorial? Colonial. Yeah. I felt like Colonial wasn't too bad, but like, I played halfway decent at PGA. Just a couple bad shots, just didn't make anything 

Go to Colonial, play okay at Colonial. Felt like I was going in the right direction. Have a decent practice week at Memorial, and then 84. Slap in the face, I mean gut punch, defending champ. Looking forward to trying to play well and having another chance to win. It was just, it was tough. And as I had said in that interview afterward I told my team, like confidence-wise, it wasn't really high. The game didn't feel good, nothing felt great. I was just at one of the lowest confidence points of my career,  the lowest confidence point in my career. And it showed playing a course like Memorial, wanting to have a good showing after winning the tournament the year before, just sort of all came to a head. I didn't have anything in my head about sharing this. It just happened. A question got asked to me, and I just sort of just emotionally couldn't handle what I was wanting to say because I knew I was gonna start just crying just because of where I was emotionally.  I just didn't have it. And it sucks being on a public stage and not having it. And so from there, actually it was one of those things that turned in to be a really good thing. Obviously, people who reached out to me were impressive, but I felt like after sharing that, and it's funny 'cause I shared it with my wife and my family. I shared it with my team. I thought that would sort of get it off my chest, but it wasn't until sharing it with the public that I got it off my chest.


I was like 'Wow, I feel so much more at ease now.' And then from there, the game has started to slowly trend into a better form. Still just a little bit off, but I'm in a lot better place than I was at Memorial, a lot better place I was a year ago and I feel like I'm really close to playing some really good golf. I mean it's funny what this game of golf does to you.

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