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Big Randy and Cody are back with another LPGA-focused pod which kicks off with a review of Alexa Pano's first professional win at the co-sanctioned ISPS Handa World Invitational event in Northern Ireland.

Then it's on to the upcoming Solheim Cup matches in Spain which are just inside of a month away (34:00). We recorded shortly after European captain Suzann Pettersen announced her captain's picks. We debrief on the European team before moving on to the Americans and the upcoming decisions facing captain Stacy Lewis. We close with some hypothetical head-to-head matchups based on the Rolex rankings.

A fresh, funny discussion of all things golf from the guys at No Laying Up. Episodes air twice a week and topics include tournament recaps, interviews, deep dive player profiles, golf travel, and more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 731: LPGA Check-In and Look Ahead to Solheim Cup

With just a little more than a month to go our foursome of Ryder Cup sickos are back to trade barbs ahead of the action at Marco Simone. For the stars and stripes, Soly pairs with Kyle Porter while the Euros are represented by Tron and Jamie Weir. We take the temperature of both sides and potential captain's picks, venue and setup concerns, the path to victory for each side, the shortcomings of the points systems, underrated players on both teams, and a ton more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 730: Ryder Cup Roundtable with Jamie Weir and Kyle Porter

Show Notes is a weekly summary of what went down on the Sunday edition of the No Laying Up podcast. Want the TLDR and every reason to listen? A recap of the recap, if you will! Words and research by Jordan Perez.

The king of the live shows is BACK. Soly makes his return (congrats to both Soly and Hannah!!), boasting at epic proportions as his pick for the week got it done, 

 D.J. and TC report from D.J.’s garage after a week spent at the BMW Championship, and Cody misses out on his Mid-Am qualifier to hold down the fort as the guys digest the second week of the newly formatted FedExCup Playoffs.

(3:30) Viktor Hovland shoots a 61 for a course record-setting victory at Olympia Fields, breaking free from a tie with Scottie Scheffler with a clutch birdie on the 18th. Hovland shot a 28 on his back nine to rocket up the leaderboard on a day that appeared to be Scheffler’s for the taking. It’s Hovland’s second victory of the year in what’s been a career year for the 25-year-old – he hasn’t missed a cut this year!

(16:30) Olympia Fields is a venue that once again rose to the occasion. Thick rough, enough variance and deceptive greens. TC and DJ dig into their on-site experience, including TC’s pro-am and some insight on the Evans Scholar program.

(24:00) Soly steals TC’s thunder and leads down the leaderboard, which includes some wholesome Max Homa moments with the crew and Saturday’s unruly spectator. Why are we letting an actual piece of string be the separation between 

(33:00) Sahith Theegala just missing the Tour Championship spurs a conversation of notables to miss (Denny McCarthy, Cameron Young, Sam Burns-ing his Ryder Cup chances?) Were they deserved?

(37:00) Soly does his best to contain TC’s desire to go all the way down the leaderboard but eventually surrenders. TC won’t admit to ever calling Tom Kim a fraud (deflects to “thirsty”), but witnesses and receipts say otherwise.

(40:00) Is Lucas Glover going to get a captain’s pick? Soly is manically dying on the JT Ryder Cup hill! Contends that the “American Poulter” needs to be on the team. Brooks Koepka, Cameron Young, Jordan Spieth, Collin Morikawa and Rickie Fowler seem set. So who is getting the last? Let’s play the culture fit game, which is mostly Soly declaring JT the only option.

(57:00) Team Europe discourse! Our resident Team Europe correspondent Tron assembles the captain’s picks.

(1:01:30) A few more FedExCup items, including the Hatton video, Team Rose throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley and Grandma Susie vibing at the BMW Championship.

(1:07:50) How much do we care about the future of men’s professional golf at this point? For the first time in a long time, this week at the BMW Championship actually felt like it was about the golf.

(1:10:00) On that note — a peek at what the Tour Championship will look like. Is the 70-50-30 cadence working? Another year of the handicap scoring — how much weirder should the playoffs get?

(1:13:00) The U.S. Amateur —  Alabama’s Nick Dunlap becomes the second player in history after Tiger Woods to win a U.S. Junior and a U.S. Amateur, beating Ohio State’s Neal Shipley 4&3.

(1:15:40) On her 19th birthday, Alexa Pano wins the ISPS Handa Invitational on the third playoff hole after a tough rookie year. Things are heating up in the women’s game — one more week until automatic Solheim Cup selections for Team USA!

(1:18:00) Alex Fitzpatrick making big moves to lock down DP World Tour status. Andy Ogletree wins by seven on the Asian Tour.


(1:22:00) Revisiting the Billy Walters interview, and stomaching another week of Blockie clout chasing after he ties the course record at Valhalla.

(1:28:00) Early FedExCup Champion picks.


(1:30:00) Soly talks dad life! Cody is literally on fire in Texas. TC gets a chipping lesson from Rory. Parting thoughts from the gang’s experience at the BMW Championship.


(1:10:00) Indeed, the handicap format for the Tour Championship is weird and fun. It’s not a major. Do whatever you want with it. I will hand it to Soly here, however…


(40:00) Show notes is in its infancy and Soly is already on a generational run. Give up on JT. 

How many times has Soly won worst take/how many editions of show notes: 

T2 Scottie Scheffler, -15: “Best driver of the ball on tour.” -Soly

T5 Brian Harman, -11:  “I am a little concerned about Brian Harman and the Ryder Cup in September. That’s when bow hunting season is in full effect. -Cody

T5 Max Homa, -11: “Little bit of a disappointing weekend for Max.” -Soly

T10 Tom Kim, -7: “That’s some stolen valor 66. I don’t even think we saw Tom Kim this week.” -TC

T15 Sahith Theegala, -6: “Patrick Cantlay made a birdie on the last two holes Viktor Hovland-style to knock Sahith out of the playoffs.” -Soly

T34 Jordan Spieth, +1: Links-master shoutout from TC.

T34 Tyrell Hatton, +1: “He rolls the rock so nice.” -TC

T37 Sepp Straka, +2: “A little worried about Sepp and the Ryder Cup.” -TC

(24:30) (On Matt Fitzpatrick’s performance) “I would say three of the top four finishers, although he’s still reeling from the Northwestern football scandal.” -TC

(28:14) (On D.J.’s high-five with Max photo) “You gotta watch this move. People are gonna think you’re trying to pass him something.” -Cody

“That’s what I said. It looks like I’m selling him molly.” -D.J.

(46:45) “The more you say these names, don’t you gravitate toward JT?” -Soly

“Don’t you feel just a little silly saying that?” -D.J.



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NLU Podcast, Episode 729: BMW Championship Recap (+ Show Notes)

Soly visits with legendary sports gambler Billy Walters ahead of the release of Billy's book Gambler: Secrets from a Life at Risk.

In addition to the well-publicized partnership Billy had with Phil Mickelson, we cover his upbringing in Kentucky, his first exposure to gambling, his road to becoming of the most famous sports bettors in the world and a ton more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 728: Billy Walters

In what’s likely the latest Live Show of all time, DJ rallies stateside Tron and abroad Cody and Randy for a BIG recap of what went down at Walton Heath, Memphis and more!


(2:40) Lilia Vu headlines a massive week of golf by winning her SECOND major of the year by six shots! But before the gang gets into that, a moment of shame for Randy for setting the all-time record for oversleeping on Tuesday of the Women’s British Open, resulting in a hell of a wake-up call from Cody. Randy jumps into the backstory of how he and Cody ended up on the AIG Women’s Open radio broadcast.

(20:00) Woven into the pod are a few tales from the road from the radio duo.


Randy and TC unpack a big theme: Lilia Vu might have effectively answered an ongoing “problem” in the women’s game – parity. Not only did she become the first American to win the AIG Women’s Open since Mo Martin 2014, but we’ve seen little repetition in major champions of the past four years, which has made it hard to establish who is the best of the best. But in the context of winning twice earlier this year and overcoming injury, the new world No. 1 has deservedly earned that spot – and broke a 24-year drought of two majors in a year set by Juli Inkster in 1999.

Along the way, the guys address a few concerning performances, including Nelly Korda’s 74.

(34:30) Randy makes a case for legitimizing Charley Hull via her Solheim Cup success – and her overall swagger! Charley’s had quite the hot girl summer, and even if she couldn’t close out her country’s open, that’s worth recognizing.

(37:00) Would it be a high-level British sporting event without climate protestors? Randy and Cody saved their censored thoughts for the live show.


(42:10) Randy drops his critiques on the AIG Women’s Open. Branding, radio and Champion Golfer of the Year are all covered. Also has high praise for the AIG Women’s Open fan atmosphere! Players made it a point of distinction, even Lilia Vu in her winning speech. The rest of the calendar should take note.


(50:00) Moving onto HAWT HAWT Memphis, where another Lucas Glover win kicks off the first PGA Tour playoff event! Glover defeated Patrick Cantlay in a playoff to capture his second consecutive PGA Tour win. TC, ever the Tommy lad apologist, is 

(1:00:00) Glover has gone from 0 to 100 with his putter – and had some big-time highlights this weekend. At this point, we probably can’t  leave him off the Ryder Cup team, right? We’re starting to get a better idea of what the Team USA picture looks like.

(1:10:30) Patrick Cantlay is obsessed with the FedEx Cup playoffs – which has had a lot of branding trouble – until they pared it down to 70! A nuanced discussion on how this played out IRL, and how successful it actually was.


(1:20:30) LIV Bedminster. Cam Smith won by 7 shots, and Ripper GC won by 11 over the Crushers. D.J. shares a funny anecdote from his own experience at Bedminster. Oh yeah, the Phil and Bryson video.

(1:27:20) Using the U.S. Women’s Amateur as an example (handheld cameras, smaller production crew) – an event dressed up in the fanciest, high-tech arrangement isn’t going to interest anyone if there’s no substance.

(1:28:55) Coined the “horniest organization in America” by TC, the boys dive into the ongoing disarray of the PGA Tour.

(1:39:50) U.S. Women’s Amateur brought the heat at Bel-Air! Auburn’s Megan Schofill defeated LSU’s Latanna Stone 4&3. Shoutout to Rachel Heck for an incredible comeback week.


(1:41:00) Sam Flood will be taking over for Mark Loomis at Golf Channel as the SVP of production. Farewell to 

 Shoutout to Joel Beall for his true crime feature. Some extra delirious baseball chatter…until a huge development on the apology front unfolds (see below).

(42:10) Randy is indeed right. The AIG Women’s Open has so many good things going for it – why can’t branding be one of them? It’s hard to want to rep the event with that unfortunate logo.

I’m struggling with the worst take this week, though I imagine if Soly were here, he’d probably say Lucas Glover couldn’t be on the Ryder Cup team or 

something akin to the Brian Harman take. 

(1:48:15) Not so much a mea culpa, but an update on the Tardy tension — Randy and Bailey Tardy have buried the hatchet, he claims!


T6 Ewing - “Her irons didn’t look good, and her driver didn’t look good on Saturday.” -TC

T21 Yamashita “I’m not buying what she’s selling.” -Randy

T44 Zhang “She looked out of sorts. Bad with her wedges. D+ game.” -Randy

(38:10) “Charley pulled that iron shot left into a crazy ass lie…these protestors had proper golf etiquette. They could have pulled the smoke and ran out onto the green when that whole debacle was going on, but they waited until after she hit that shot to pop that pink smoke.” -Cody

(45:30) “I got a nickname I’d like to offer for Allisen Corpuz. Can we call her something about gingivitis? It’s a death that creeps in through the gums. You don’t quite see it coming until it’s too late.” -Randy

(1:03:40) “I will say – my Denny McCarthyism take – he finished DFL this week.” -TC

“A bit of a red scare. No red numbers for Mr. McCarthy.” -DJ

(1:20:40) “It is golf for the ADHD generation. I’m old, I’ll admit, I’m old.” -Randy


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NLU Podcast, Episode 727: Women's British Open + Memphis Recaps (+ Show Notes)

Big Randy and Cody report from Walton Heath with TC joining stateside for a Friday recap of the first two rounds of the Women's British Open where Ally Ewing leads by five shots. We break down Ewing's first two rounds, the rest of the contenders, those who we expected to contend that are heading home after two days, plus our experiences as members of the Women's Open Radio crew and a look ahead to the weekend.

NLU Podcast, Episode 726: Women's British Open Friday Recap

Big Randy and Cody are on location at Walton Heath for this week's AIG Women's Open. After a brief recap of our jet-lagged experience at today's Pro-Am, we offer our thoughts on the course, our upcoming appearance on the tournament radio broadcast, and our picks to contend in the final major of the year in women's golf.

NLU Podcast, Episode 725: Women's British Open Preview

“Substitute teaching” or a permanent replacement? Whatever you say, TC. He’s back to host another Sunday recap pod, this time joined by KVV! (Congrats to Soly, who became a dad this week. Perspective OTW!!!)


The two dive into PGA Tour regular-season finale in the Wyndham Championship, where Lucas Glover emerged victorious for his fifth PGA Tour win two strokes ahead of Byeong-hun An and Russell Henley. The putter plagued Glover, forcing a switch to a long putter that seemed to break the curse.

(8:30) 511 events, 59 top-ten finishes, 26 top-fives and five PGA Tour wins later, Lucas Glover has made a lot in his 19-year career.

(9:45) The guys talk Glover sounding off early in the week on the downsizing of the playoff system in going from the top 125 to 70. Both disagree with Glover’s larger point – a playoff is meant to reward good play.

(17:00) A recap of Lucas Glover’s Sunday, featuring some very interesting breaks (a cop, a creek, things of that nature).

(23:30) Down the leaderboard with a very brief ping-pong tangent inspired by the family history of runner-up Byeong-hun An.

poorly aged Justin Thomas Ryder Cup take.

 He believes he’ll still get picked! Unreal. Exploring who could take his place.


(36:00) Bryson’s 58 and all things LIV Greenbrier. Did Brooks’s words wake up Matthew Wolff? And a few more closing items from Sedgefield – stoking the Matt Wallace flame. Team Europe captain’s picks, as well as giving the FedExCup rankings some serious consideration in the one week of the year that they matter.


(56:45) Time to unpack Tiger joining the PGA Tour policy board! Tiger joins Patrick Cantley, Charley Hoffman, Peter Malnati, Rory McIlroy and Webb Simpson working alongside Ed Herlihy, Jimmy Dunne, Mark Flaherty, Mary Meeker, soon-to-be-announced Big Randall Stephenson’s replacement and PGA of America Director John Lindert.

The two go over the certain steps the player leaders requested, including the involvement and approval of Player Directors before any major decision is made and Colin Neville (Special Advisor to the Player Directors) being clued in on the state of negotiations in the Framework Agreement and provided access to any documents and information necessary on behalf of the players. (This smells a lot like marriage counseling, I imagine?) 

Stop pretending to be happy about the PGA Tour “working things out,” Phil…

(1:05:00) Let’s react to the new schedule leak. Not too many changes, but enough to brew some conjecture. Going back to Bryson – sounds like he’s back! A 58 is a 58, even if the setup was bringing in other low scores.

(1:14:16) Shouts to Celine Boutier for following up her win at Evian with a two-shot victory at the Scottish Open. Transitioning into some Women’s British Open chatter. KVV chats about his experience playing Walton Heath.

(1:17:40) Some quick hitters including the Western Amateur, Angel Cabrera’s prison release, end of the Korn Ferry Tour season, conference realignment, U.S. Women’s Amateur at Bel-Air and Jack Nicklaus losing his Name, Image and Likeness case.

(9:45) The rebuttal to Lucas Glover is totally valid. 70 is a lot. Forcing me to care about 

It’s not like everyone outside of 70 is SOL. You still have some status. Play better!

(30:30) KVV is still somewhat attached to the JT Ryder Cup take. It’s over. Let it go.

Light refreshments this week from the Wyndham Championship.

T2 Byeong-hun An - “Both of his parents are Olympians.” -TC

4 Horschel - “I’ve been critical of Billy in the past. He can be a loudmouth, but so can I.” -TC

T5 Webb Simpson - “First top-ten since March or April?”

T5 Michael Kim - “Became a good golfer again, but also a delightful Twitter follow.” -KVV

T7 Adam Scott - “Adam Scott being 43 makes me feel old.” -KVV

T7 Adam Svensson - “Let me down this week. The fund was relying on him.” -TC

T12 Justin Thomas - “Valiant effort, I’m just not buying the whole Ryder Cup thing.” -TC

(17:00) “Going back to Lucas, he had a couple good breaks down the stretch. On 18…hits it off of a cop. Try that in a small town, Lucas.” -TC

(25:45) “We had a ping pong table in the basement growing up, Neil and I. I think we had fist fights at the end of ping-pong matches, broken paddles, all that kind of stuff.” -TC


(54:57) “Would Phil have been like Romo, though? Where you love him the first two seasons and then you go ‘God, f*ck this guy.’” -TC

“What a quick summary of Phil’s entire personality.” -KVV

(1:33:20) *Jack Nicklaus impression* “‘I mean, Andy Katzenmoyer, he got to sell his name back in the day…’” -KVV


Adam Schupak story on Lucas Glover’s thoughts on new playoff system

PGA Tour press release on Tiger joining the PGA Tour policy board

Twitter: Phil weirdly celebrating Tiger joining the policy board

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NLU Podcast, Episode 724: 2023 Wyndham Championship Recap (+ Show Notes)

A substitute teacher appearance: TC and Cody take over the Sunday recap pod to touch on a 

of golf that went down this past week. (Side note: Congrats are in order for our very own Casey Landman, who won her club championship this past week!)

(5:15) The duo opens things by chatting about the 3M Open, where Lee Hodges totally dominated with a 24-under week, winning by a whole 

TC and Cody tag team Down the Leaderboard before jumping into Ryder Cup implications. (13:00) TC has some Ludvig explaining to do…and asks him to 

Cody brings up an excellent point: Why doesn’t someone like Akshay Bhatia (a non-member) get FedExCup points, even with a special temporary membership?

(22:30) Jordan…I mean me…ok, I’m not gonna refer to myself in the third person. I hop on to talk with the guys about the Evian Championship and the U.S. Junior Amateur. Celine Boutier outlasted a top-notch leaderboard to become the first Frenchwoman to win the Evian, and earned her first major in the process. I claim she “Brian Harman’d that sh*t” after being the 54-hole leader and winning by six shots.

(27:00) That’s the kind of win to lock Celine into her second Solheim Cup appearance – and make Team Europe look extra dangerous. Let’s assess their chances. A Ciganda conspiracy? TC dives into Carlota Ciganda’s DQ, which resulted from her refusing to sign her scorecard according to a 2-stroke slow play penalty assessed during her second round. Was that the right hill to die on given her spot on the Solheim Cup points list?

(33:40) So…is Evian legit yet? I argue that by proxy of the field and identification, it’s a piece of a larger puzzle.

(42:20) Cody notes Team USA is in TROUBLE. Danielle Kang is making the Solheim Cup team with this kind of year? 73-79 at Evian to miss the cut. And Lexi Thompson skips Evian for the third time in a row?

(45:00) We come up with who we’d most love to play a Pro-Am with: Patty Tavatanakit, Charley Hull, Rose Zhang, Angel Yin, Jenny Shin, Nasa Hataoka and Minjee Lee all make our individual lists, for different reasons.

(47:15) Time to talk some U.S. Junior Am! Certainly a strange year at the Junior Amateur with too many weather delays to count and a championship match spanning two days. Does the U.S. Junior indicate better professional success vs. the U.S. Amateur? Billy Davis is emerging from his twin Anna’s shadow!


Incoming Duke freshman Bryan Kim defeated Joshua Bai, 2 up, in his final junior event. Very back-and-forth match, but Kim won the final two holes down the stretch…and didn’t even have to putt for the title? A tough sequence from Bai, who tried to go for the green in two resulted in three disastrous chips – one involving TIO.


(59:06) Back to TC and Cody. TC quickly indulges in the gnarly conditties at the Royal Porthcawl, where Alex Cejka bested Padraig Harrington on the second playoff hole to win the Senior Open title.


(1:01:30) Big Jay is back on the job after sending out a massive memo on Wednesday night. The PGA Tour details its opposition to the USGA’s proposed rollback and the announcement of the “Player Benefit Program,” aka, reparations for those who never made the jump to LIV. Basically, Jay wants to get back in the good graces of the PGA Tour membership. Also in the works is the assembly of a committee designed to “develop potential pathways back to the PGA Tour for LIV players who wish to reapply in the future.”

(01:14:15) PGA Tour Canada cheating controversy! Just a little change up of a score after Justin Doeden hit it in the water on the final hole of his round and changed a 7 to a 5, hoping his playing partners wouldn’t notice after they left scoring. Sike. They totally did.


(01:16:30) Shouts to Barstool and the Korn Ferry Tour for innovation on the coverage side, and to Michael Thorbjornsen for coming out on top on the PGA Tour U rankings.

(33:40) Fine, TC. It might take a little longer to elevate the Evian, and it might start with the course. The Evian Resort Club has some legitimacy to it, but we might be Bellerive’ing it here in giving too much weight to the leaderboard.


(47:15) Look, maybe, just maybe, we have an equal amount of flukey winners on both the Junior and the U.S. Am side. I’ll nominate myself. Still, @ me.

 “I’ve watched Rose Zhang in a pro-am before…I don’t know that Rose Zhang should be playing golf with mortals. It’s just not a thing that should happen.” 

 “He literally has to win the Masters for people to stop saying ‘Oh yeah, that’s Billy, Anna Davis’s brother.’” 

“Alex Cejka won in a playoff over Padraig Harrington, who looked like he didn’t know how to wear a beanie. It was awesome.”

Times TC stressed about inclement weather during recording: 

Some light hors d'oeuvres for the 3M Open and Evian Championship.

T2 J.T. Poston, -17  “Bummed. -TC on J.T. Poston’s triple on 18 to spoil straight 66s

T5 Keith Mitchell, -16 “Like seeing Keith heat up.” -TC

T7 Tony Finau -15, “Had some rollback comments that we will certainly get to later.”

T10 Emiliano Grillo, -14 “Such a good year.” -Cody

T13 Beau Hossler, -13  “The sheepdog coming in clutch. I think he tied the tournament course record there. (RE: final round 62)” -Cody

2 Brooke Henderson, -8 - “Not a putting contest.” -TC

T3 Yuka Saso, -7 - “Very good stretch from her of late.” -TC

T9 Atthaya Thitikul, -5 “Some stolen valor.” -TC

T16 Minjee Lee, -3 “Kinda shocking.” -TC

T20 Jin Young Ko, -2 “Continues to just simmer right below the surface.” -TC

T20 Angel Yin, -2 “Just an awesome performance in a major championship with a 76 on her scorecard.” -Cody

T48 Patty Tavatanakit, +2 “Not doing this again. You’re not getting me this time, (Patty).” -Jordan

T61 Lydia Ko, +6 “Feels like we’re a long way off, still.” -Cody

68 Paula Reto, +7 “Not a Camilo, but a post-cut Camilo.” -TC

MC Danielle Kang, +10 “What are we doing?” -Cody


Carlota’s Instagram response to her slow-play DQ

Jason Gore (PGA Tour executive vice president and chief player officer) on the rollback

Phil Mickelson’s response to the announcement of the pathway back to the PGA Tour

PGA Tour Canada cheating story by Monday Q Info

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NLU Podcast, Episode 723: 3M + Evian Recap (+ Show Notes)

Ahead of the fourth LPGA major of the year, Randy catches up with Grant Boone to talk all things Evian Championship and LPGA. Grant is a long-time play-by-play voice on Golf Channel and brings a great perspective on the up and down history of the Evian and the debate around what makes a major earn that distinction on tour. We also get into some general discussion on this season thus far and some of the names who we expect to contend this week in France.

NLU Podcast, Episode 722: LPGA Evian Preview with Grant Boone

Hats off to Brian Harman! The hot-dog-eating, apple pie-loving Americans Soly, D.J., Randy and Neil all show the 2023 Open Champion kudos. The weekend leader hardly faltered, and any blemish quickly showed quick resilience, especially with his fiery putter and precision. Maybe it isn’t the sexiest final round 70 you’ve ever seen, but Harman had more of that DAWG in him than anyone else to win by six shots. Breaking the conventions of what we expect a modern men’s golf champion – doing it with long iron play and a world-class short game instead of a long-distance driver – makes for a compelling winner.

(10:05): D.J. reminisces on Brian Harman’s dominant amateur career, and how he struggled to replicate the same success. Some of his highlights 

 winning the U.S. Junior Amateur and a host of prestigious college and amateur events.

(12:50): Tron’s last-minute Tommy Fleetwood rally resuscitated the tournament. Some pre-TC roasting before he joins the show. Randy points out Fleetwood played Friday, Saturday and Sunday at a combined 1-over. 

(27:00): RE: Ryder Cup hopefuls – who is the most bummed out that Harman won?

(30:00): The boys play the O/U game regarding total PGA Tour wins for Brian Harman. Neil sets it at 5. D.J. says this major sets up better for Harman than your normal week-to-week events on the PGA Tour.

(33:30): KVV drops in and is painfully reminded that TC made it to Hoylake far quicker than KVV’s own golf clubs, which remain stranded somewhere in England. KVV adds some insight regarding the Harman naysayers and his culture-shocking revelations to the English media. It appears these people do not think Harman’s tractor is sexy.

(37:30): TC SNEAKS INTO THE MEDIA CENTER?! How did the post-round pic with Tommy-lad come about? And more details on the dream that drove his trip! The Vision Fund remains extremely bullish on Tommy (shocking)…and sees a FedExCup in Fleetwood’s future? Bold words from a man who only lasted alongside Tommy until the 14th hole. Nevertheless, his belief remains bigger than your doubt.

(50:30): LIMPGATE? Did Tom Kim limp harder for the Netflix cameras?! TC hopes to see less thirst.


(1:01:45): Now that TC’s gone……an objective Tommy Fleetwood post-mortem. He finished T10 after tying for the first-round lead. This influences the boys into a discussion about the best modern players to have never won a major. That said, two top-10s in a major for everyone’s favorite Austrian and second-favorite Dawg, Sepp Straka – is he a lock for Team Europe?


(1:15:15) Now that men’s major championship season is over, let’s reflect. Best major of the season, biggest letdowns…and let’s bring some nuance to the “Can LIV guys compete at majors?” discussion. Where did they go? Play aside, we didn’t get the soap opera drama between tours we might have hoped for, but this year established Brooks is That Dude again.

(1:27:00): YETI Coldest Moment of the Week Nominations. Hint: Most nominations go to stone-cold killer Brian Harman, sans resident camper Neil.

(1:43:45): Eulogizing the Linksmaster (Jordan Spieth’s) legitimate chances at major championship golf.

(1:48:00): Shoutouts in order for: Alex Fitzpatrick’s top-20 in his first major, Matthew Jordan, low amateur Christo Lamprecht (only amateur to make the cut) and Tom Kim.

(1:52:00): A little Hamsterdam because NBC deserves it for a lukewarm major championship presentation. Get rid of Playing Through. NBC weekends are becoming dreadful.

D.J. files it under obvious takes, but 18 holes is a lot of golf. We’re constantly reminded of it every time Rory comes out guns blazing and we think it will continue for another 3+ hours. But a full round of golf is a journey of ebbs and flows, as we learned again Sunday.

Also, how CAN we explain the crazy 20+ top-10s with no dubs since Rory’s last major? Is it time to start thinking of Rory as two totally different players (pre-2014 and post-2014)? 

 Are we not selecting off of merit anymore? He plays well across the pond, Soly. He hits fairways and greens! He’s a match play killer! Soly continues to advocate for the points system to change – in hopes of choosing the 12 best players for the team. Claims Harman has been “just a guy!” up until this week. Come on.

Small but sincere apologies to Tom Kim from D.J. for two top-10s in majors in 2023 and Soly apologizes to D.J. for some bet they made about Padraig and Adrian Meronk after a big-time 67 in the final round from D.J.’s fellow Pole.

-Neil’s message to Brian Harman’s hecklers (35:40)

“‘Tommy, I apologize to you. I should have been here earlier.’” 

“It turns out the R&A isn’t very friendly toward journalists who show up on the morning of the final round.” – TC

“I’m proud of TC referring to himself as a journalist. We’ve come a long way.” – KVV (39:30)

“I think us absolutely riding for Brian Harman in the preview pod absolves us of any bad takes.”

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